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To me, the immediate and lasting response I feel for the Huracan is "mousy."
The car has never impressed me, as it lacks presence. The exact opposite of myself. It is weird to go from being immediately noticeable to "very easy to miss" just by getting in a car. I like big, loud, and flamboyant in a car, like the Aventador. It just has more presence.

This same phenomenon was discussed regarding he bodybuilding scene in the mid-1980's. The then-champions were not all that BIG. They had no PRESENCE. In a suit, they just disappeared in a crowd. In Pumping Iron, in one passage it described Arnold going out for a walk between posing rounds in New York in emerald-green jean shorts cut off near the knees and a wild 70's print shirt. "As glamorous and cocky as a unicorn."

Arnold and his generation of champions filled the venue with their presence, "squeezing you out of your seat." I know they had some technically excellent physiques in the 1980's, but the statue of David doesn't have the same presence as, for example, the Colossus of Rhodes.

For some, however, this is not an issue. It is not an adjustment I am willing to make. Now, if I was Agent 47 and getting in and out with minimum profile and maximum speed was important, a matt-gray Huracan might be the ticket. Or lots of speeding, to which effect people HAVE used a matt gray Lamborghini.

But for the money, no, I can be forgotten just by sitting at a bus stop. I feel no need to pay for the concept. Before anyone brays about their opinions of more flamboyant guys, you just do you. I can't be you, and I won't be you.
So why exactly are you here in this forum? I personally don't like anything about a Ferrari 488....I'm not in their forums telling everyone why I don't like it. I don't like Jeep Cherokees.....far from in their forums discussing why I don't like it, lol. The list goes on and on. Something clearly attracts your attention about the Huracan to have given the lecture you just gave to us.
And for the record, don't believe anyone here thinks it's the best super car, loudest, fastest, best looking, etc, but it sure does compete with the best of them! Very well rounded super car.

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A "forum" is for "discussion" I am discussing, gentlemen. Besides it makes for some lively conversations, obviously. The "we all love" part was funny, to me, yes. I know the Huracan is attractive to many. To me, it is forgettable. The Aventador is, like Arnold in his heyday "glamorous and cocky as a unicorn."

If you like small, mousy, cars, why not go for a Gallardo? That car brought boring to a whole new nadir. No Lamborghini that is not a farm tractor has ever bored me so greatly. It's a visual sedative.

The Aventador, to me, is the flagship. It has more personality and panache than any of the 32 models Ferrari has brought out this week , or however many it is in their endless cynical cash-in-on-the-repeat-buyer marketing program.

Lamborghini does a better job by having a few models exceedingly well-done, including the Huracan, I might add. It has more personality than the last five Ferraris, that all seem to think the idea is to look more and more melted, evidently. The high-water-mark for Ferraris was the 330 P4. For Lamborghini, I think it's the Aventador.

I refuse to date the also-kind-of-attractive sister of a supermodel, also. I cringe to think of family reunions for years thereafter where you are reminded you got Second Prize. It's just a personal preference. I'd prefer a used Aventador to a mousy Huracan that I drove right away from the final test cell myself. Would YOU prefer a divorced supermodel or her kinda mousy unmarried sister?

Also, a V10 is not a very good engine configuration, compared to a V12. It has a rocking motion intrinsic in its balance, even if it has a 72 degree angle between cylinder banks, which it SHOULD. V12s were chosen because of their intrinsically superior balance in warplanes, F1 cars, endurance cars, diesels, the list goes on.

Engines, cont'd.

I just dislike V10's because of stuff about them I have found out: I have researched the engineering and physics of various engine configurations. The V12 is the KING. The Lamborghini V12 in particular. Naturally aspirated, free-revving, lacking 17 turbos, three superchargers, twelve hybrid drives, four Greta Thunbergs and a partridge in a pear tree and all.

I am NOT a fan of 6's, even V6's, much less Ferraris, but there is some merit in actually having 120 degrees between the cylinder banks, and I laud them for that, if and ONLY if they have a crank with 120 degrees between each throw. (actually, it is 240 degrees between throws, but as we know, a circle is 360 degrees, so the net effect is 120 degrees.)

Another car with an even WORSE V10 is the Dodge Viper, with a ridiculous 90 degree V angle between the cylinder banks. That car couldn't die soon enough. I remember marveling at the primitive "engineering" the first time I ever looked into those cars. I thought then as I do now, "Seriously, Dodge? Seriously?" Also, the non-GTS Vipers are hideous and awkward.

Mouth breathing, drool, and massive cubic inches in an OHV monstrosity, and they wondered why it didn't have a GREAT following by people in that price bracket.
What was the ad copy like? "Honest, y'all, it's a pickup truck motor, but hawt DANG she shore do scoot, don't she?" (spits tobacco juice) Does anything have cachet like a truck-motor, plastic-door car?

Meanwhile, Dodge is wondering, "Why doesn't it sell more?" Geez. Like Sir Paul McCartney or whomever is going to trade in their Ferrari for a caricature, a joke. But, that is a separate subject. I despise V10 motors, but especially THAT one. Also, inline-fives, 60 degree V6's, flat-fours, etc. This includes the current F1 V6 formula. F1 claims to be pioneering technology for street use. Yes, the same F1 that developed traction control and anti-lock brakes years after it was available on Corvettes. Cue eye roll. The next engine formula was slated to be a turbo inline-four, which, if you are trying to broaden/identify with your audience, would have made sense, but a turbo V6? Zero point zero cars manufactured on Earth had turbo V6's at that time. Oy vey, what a complete blocking of reality.

I am sure Lambo will continue to see support from some as it goes down the self-neutering path of EV, hybrid, V6, inline four, maybe a diesel three-cylinder, whatever. I think they peaked with the Aventador. I was never hyped about the Murcielago for various reasons. To me, big, easy-breathing V12 engines have a dignity other engines (all of them) lack.

The Diablo with its Nissan headlights was somewhat groundbreaking and thankfully, large, designed by Marcello Ghandini, who then designed an almost-duplicate in the Cizeta Morodor, with THE most idiotic engine I had seen up to that point in a supercar: a "V16" that was split into two banks of V8, mounted TRANSVERSELY across the engine bay, OMG. What a ridiculous car. Haven't heard of it? Lucky you. It won't improve your day.

However the crown for "most idiotic motor in a supercar/hypercar" has GOT to go to the W16 in the Bugatti and various other hyper-priced overcars. Or is that overpriced hypercars? I marvel at the sheer awkward, oversized ugliness. Der Chermans, did they hire teams of engineers plus some disciples of Timothy Leary to even conceive that lump?

I'm not dissing your choice of cars. My knee-jerk reaction to the Gallardo and Huracan was just that they were less-remarkable, the pretty sisters of the supermodel.

I figured I'd check out Ferrari's site. This is just a list of their LATEST offerings. I find the
  • The melted
  • The cheeseburger patty
  • The convertible cheeseburger patty
  • The forgettable
  • The leans heavily on the brand name
  • The convertible leans heavily on the brand name
  • the super-duper-exclusive one that still looks like a melted 370Z
  • etc.
  • Plus two more models. OMG.
Before you howl about your wounded feelings, I am just relating how I feel about some cars. Some cars just don't grab my attention.

And, not, I'm not going to tell you anything about myself, so don't bother asking, you creepy stalker. Some "autists" found Shia LeBouef's exact location based on a live video of him near a flagpole with a jet flying by overhead. Privacy is golden.
So which Aventador(s) do you own? Which Bugatti's?
Have more questions but let's start with those 2.

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The engine bay is without glass
The front is with Y shape on the headlights and the body is significant larger than Huracan with more space and leg room inside.New cental console with double touch, bigger optional wheels
Wait, so you've seen the new Huracan 2 years early?!
A lot is likely to change from now to release day I'm sure.
New infotainment is an obvious change they'll make.

With all that said, don't thinky mind/imagination can take speculating the new Huracan & Aventador replacements at the same time, haha!! Time to let this thread rest for about a half year😂.

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You are one "Fan Boy", simple amateur for me.I don't want waste even a second with you.Go to see what happens with your president Biden and don't reply my post anymore.Im so tired of toxic people everywhere and for sure I'll stop using this profile in certain moment
???? I wasn't being rude to you one bit.... simply asked a question. But your response echos what 2Tired, Leon, and others have been stating about you for a while now... Extremely defensive for absolutely no reason at all. Nothing about my response screams "fan boy". Seems if you feel threatened on bit to anyone calling you out for shouting generic info, like you have the inside scoop (never any proof you do), you get defensive. Listen....WE DONT CARE if you give"unheard" news or not! We'll all eventually get the info. You won't get a check from anyone hear, no credits, no cookies, nothing. Don't try too hard to "please us first". We do thank you for the little bit of correct info you do provide, but lately it's been very very little, and mostly incorrect, or common sense news. When you realize you're incorrect, you go back to your post and edit it with "....".
Hate to have been so quiet about your post and "info" for so long, but as others have stated, it's super obvious to me that you have no credentials with Lamborghini, no true inside scoop/no relation, not on the pay roll with them, etc. Just a passionate owner, like the rest of us. We can respect you for that, as it's a win and an honor to be an owner.
Believe I've said enough....silly to get upset about a car, just a car, that's not even out yet, hasn't been announced yet, and whom only insiders have any info on😎👍!

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I shared only for my pleasure.Thank God🙏🙏🙏,that I don't need to wait for a cash check in my life from Vitveet.Will be very miserable life ⚰⚰⚰ View attachment 324095
😑. Not even sure what that's supposed to mean...you absolutely don't know me from a can of paint. My life is far from miserable and I could make yours less miserable as well 🙂. But you can do that yourself by not trying to make us think you know more about Lamborghini's future than you really do. We're all here to learn from each other, accept that. No point in getting defensive any longer.
Have a good day! No love loss at all 👍!

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The reason I'm not pursuing the Z06-Z07 at this stage even though it is beautiful is because getting a used H might be easier(if prices ever come back down to earth). The dealer is asking 10K deposit and wait time is 5-10 years! By that time I bet it will no longer be in production, plus the price tag is around +- 200K CAD. Last it looks too much like the base C8.
I agree with all your points. Definitely too much like a base C8 for sure. Will be an excellent performer for the money. And in no way would I ever put down a deposit and wait 5 years plus for a Chevrolet... And yes, the H, even being an 7 year old platform, STILL makes the C8 look bad/dated if you sit them side by side. No comparison.
Also, I say go ahead and make a move on an H. Still wishful thinking for the prices to tank on clean, unmolested H's.

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