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If you own a Huracán or Gallardo, there is now a new, next generation carbon ceramic rotor fitment for your vehicle whether it's equipped with the fragile stock CCB rotors or the base, iron brake rotor package. We have a specific fitment for both.

If you're the proud owner of an Aventador or Murciélago, we do not have a fitment currently available. That isn't to say we couldn't make them but it would require a minimum of six invested individuals due to the high engineering costs for new fitments.


The basics...We now have available one rotor which works both for the track and the street. I have been working tirelessly to bring fitments of Surface Transform's next generation carbon ceramic brakes to market for the Gallardo, Huracán, R8 and RS5. I'm proud to say they are now in production and ready for purchase whether you have the stock CCB package or the base, iron rotor package. I have a fitment for both. See photos below of the first fitment which arrived here today (6/3/21).

While Lamborghini offers their own CCB option, the OE chopped carbon rotors are known to be problematic and prone to excessive, degrading wear when used on-track. They simply cannot stand up to the heat cycling of a track day necessitating them to be replaced at an extremely high cost.

Enter Surface Transforms rotors. which offer next generational performance, mature technology, currently being used by OE manufacturers. They've been featured on every Koenigsegg since 2004 and are now offered on new McLarens as an upgraded brake package. In fact, the current record-holder at Phillip Island is a McLaren Senna with ST rotors. A full 80% of Sennas were ordered with these rotors at a substantial up-charge.

We have offered them for Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes AMG, Nissan GT-R, Ford GT (gen 2) and Aston Martin for years. There have never been fitments for Lamborghini or Audi until now. Older cars with higher miles now have a less expensive path for higher quality, higher performance replacement discs and owners with the base iron brake package that aspire to switch to performance-enhancing carbon ceramics have an option as well.

A few highlights
-15,000+ mile track life
-Can be refurbished twice in their lifetime by a specialized mechanical process which is also affordable
-3X the heat transfer ability vs. OE CCB rotors
-Can be used with "normal" calipers/pistons, no special phenolic pistons needed
-Same weight savings as OE CCB's and substantially lighter than even aftermarket 2-piece rotors like Girodisc.
-Half the cost on average, of their OE CCB equivalent
-Bolt-on, no modifications needed
-Works with the standard 8-piston calipers on iron rotor-equipped vehicles
-Works with the 6-piston 19Z on the CCB-equipped cars, no modifications.
-Growing selection of brake pads for street and track helping to dial in your preferred braking feel
-All of the benefits of OE CCB rotors with none of the downsides
-Outperforms OE CCB's in every measurable performance category
-Improved NVH in street-driven situations
-3X as hard as OE CCB's

COST. The rotors are $6325 per axle (two discs) or $12650 for all four wheels. This is a premium, aspirational product, no doubt about it. But they are, hands down, the best brake rotors on the planet. If you happen to damage your OE discs, or just want to feel safe tracking your car, there's now a more affordable alternative which outperforms OE CCB discs or heavy, aftermarket iron discs. Either set your OE discs aside for later resale/trade in purposes or sell them to recoup some of the investment. It's a no-brainer either way.
https://redmistracing.com/ols/categories/lamborghini-fitments

***We currently have the first two sets of CCB replacement rotors inbound from England. One set has already been sold to an R8 owner but one set is still available. If you're interested in that set, send me an email and we can get the ball rolling before someone else snatches them up. I don't expect them to last long. [email protected]

Fitments.
CCB to ST rotor upgrade- 380x38mm front discs and 356x32mm rear (OE-sized for front and rear)
Iron rotor to ST rotor upgrade- 380x34mm front discs (with caliper spacers) and 356x32mm rear
The iron rotor upgrade follows a standard practice of increasing the front disc size for added value and brings the total braking prowess closer to the CCB-equipped vehicles.

TECH DETAILS
The technical stuff...The Surface Transforms rotors are referred to as CFRC rotors, which stands for continuous fiber reinforced ceramic, and as stated earlier, is a mature technology used by many hyper car manufacturers including Koenigsegg since 2004 (17 years of OE production). There are dozens of currently available fitments for Porsche, Ferrari, McClaren, Ford GT, Nissan GT-R, Mercedes AMG GT-S/R and Aston Martin. It's Audi and Lamborghini's turn.

Audi and Lamborghini use a CCB rotor (carbon ceramic brakes) which are made through a cast process which utilizes chopped carbon fiber. In theory, these brakes should offer a substantial performance gain over standard cast-iron rotors and in many ways they do. They also have two major pitfalls; replacements are prohibitively expensive and they tend not to do well on track, especially when overheated. As the resin is burned out of the disc, their ability to brake is lessened to the point where the discs must be replaced. Some owners have managed to do this in as little as one track day.

Enter the CFRC rotors from Surface Transforms which use a multidirectional matrix of continuous carbon fiber. Where the CCB rotors are cast in molds, CFRC rotors are an additive process and machined to the final dimensions. Not only are they more thermally efficient, they can be "renewed" good as new via an inexpensive process with quick turn-around.

This is, of course, the holy grail of carbon ceramic rotors. If you overheat and wear out a set of CCB rotors, there are currently no reliable options to refurbish them and can cost well over $20,000USD to replace. Not so with the CFRC rotors. Simply send them in for renewal and 10 days later, they're ready to go for another 5,000+ track miles.

CFRC rotors have on average a TRACK LIFE of 5,000 miles before needing a refurbishment, 15,000+ miles lifetime. The process is approximately $600 per rotor and therefore highly affordable and repeatable two times over the life of the disc. The rotors themselves come in at about half the cost of a set of OE CCB rotors. Track your car? Grab a set of these and don't worry about burning them up. Long term serviceability for street or track driven cars makes them cost efficient and there are brake pad options for each. In addition, these rotors are designed to work with carbon ceramic and normal cast-iron calipers. Owners of the standard brake-equipped models can now upgrade to a ceramic rotor and all of their benefits.

Pads are off the shelf Pagid pads and thus available from multiple vendors including RMR. In addition we'll be working with Carbotech and another yet unnamed big pad manufacturer (especially in the Porsche world, hint, hint) to offer additional choices. Pagid RSC1, RSC2, RSC3 and RSL29 can be used and are approved by Surface Transforms. Carbotech will be testing their various pads, many of which already work with the OE CCB discs, further expanding our pad options. Technically the RSC1 could do double duty, track and street. No swapping rotors, no swapping pads, just drive to the track, have fun and drive home.

About me...I didn't want to clog the top of the thread with my details. My name is Michel Fortier I am a new vendor here, owner of RMR or Red Mist Racing, LLC. I'm also a vendor on R8talk and moderate a few tech heavy Audi forums. I am an enthusiast first and a vendor second. I do not own a Huracán or any Lamborghini for that matter but I do aspire to and I've always been a fan. I have extensive experience tracking and building track cars and began my journey in this field commercially by designing highly effective heat exchangers for the Borg Warner DL-501 dual clutch transmissions. It has, to say the least, snowballed from there.

I only sell products I wholeheartedly believe in and would use on my own vehicle in anger. We have some very capable partners in all of this including HCF out of Austin (they make lots of interesting Huracán and Gallardo parts!), just up the road from me. Price Cobb, former LeMans winner and all-around legend is also involved on the brake pad aspects of things and we're in constant communication and sharing ideas.

I am more than happy to answer any questions but for now, I'll leave a few photos we took at a recent photo shoot. Unfortunately, no Lamborghini Gallardo's were available so we'll have to do with a lowly McLaren! I will have photos once the first set of Huracán/Gallardo/R8/RS5 rotors arrive stateside on Thursday. They'll be installed by the owner in preparation for a track day at VIR on June 7th and 8th.






Photos of actual Huracán/Gallardo/R8 fitment..
The very first set of Lamborghini/Audi R8 (Huracán/Gallardo) rotors have been delivered to an excited forum member who has quickly test fit the front and rear rotors. Says he lifted the boxes off his front porch and smiled at how light they were. He'll get weights for the discs later today but I can tell you this, it'll be a great deal lighter than 30 pound Girodisc rotors and will outperform them by a vast amount, not only in wear but in outright performance. And rotating, unsprung weight is the most critical, effective weight you can remove from a car.







The "pizza" boxes.


I do have ONE MORE SET available immediately, another CCB replacement set. [email protected] if you're interested!

Full track report coming soon. Testing Pagid RSC1's and possibly Carbotech XP12's.
 

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Photos of the first R8 to receive and track the ST rotors. Was a huge success overall as the car's owner gets accustomed to the R8. His other track car is a GT3 Touring which also has ST rotors so he's well versed in their benefits! RSC1 pads work far better in the R8 application than with the GT3 which is surprising. The front calipers were upgraded to the 19Z Porsche caliper (no phenolic spacers) which can be had for about $750 each (new) if you shop around.
 

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You know, we are not opposed to doing a group buy on these...given the cost, we could probably knock it down to six individuals to qualify. Would that spark some interest? I think once a few owners get them on their cars and provide real-world feedback on and off track, these'll be the go to for rotors. Let's get the ball rolling!
 

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We are now officially back-ordered on these. Sold the last set (thanks G!) and are currently back-ordered until late September, early October. Get your order in now for the next batch!
 

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Latest set in my hands. CCB replacement set, 380x34mm fronts and 356x32mm rears. These things are truly a work of art. Completely drool worthy and such a quality piece of kit. The hats aren't so much gold as they are platinum, white gold in color. Really classy-looking in person. You can actually see the long chain carbon fibers.

I weighed both the front and rears. Fronts came in at 13.8 pounds and the rears came in at about 9.8 pounds. Any finger pressure increased the weight as the scale was super sensitive.

Both the CCB replacement and iron rotor upgrade sets have been limited production up to this point but it's my understanding they're now in full production in England as we speak with an estimated end of the month finish date. So even if we don't have a set in stock for your car here in the states, it'll take four days to get them over from England. [email protected]









 

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PFC braking systems has been doing some tests with the ST rotors, here's a little video testing them up to 1000 degrees Celsius. Note that cars almost never get above 700 Celsius (especially street cars!). This would destroy a normal CCB rotor in short order.

I have a CCB replacement set in stock but everything is in full production now so I can have either fitment to your door quickly.

Also, Surface Transforms rotors were just named the official carbon rotor for the International GT Racing Series starting in 2022. So they'll now be used in a professional motorsports series. That's how good they are.
 
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