[Webbo]

I picked up my new manual Gallardo today and after crawling through traffic for 20 miles a problem occured.

First, when idling in neutral, the revs started jumping up and down between 900 and 1100 (usually sits at 1000). Eventually, a warning light came on which on looking in the manual stated:

'EOBD engine bank (6-10) malfunction. This symbol lights up when faults have occured in the engine. Even if these are only temporary, they cause emissions that are beyond safety standards. Slow down and have the vehicle checked by an authorised Lamborghini service centre ASAP.'

Of course, sods law said that all the technicians had finished for the day so after getting the vehicle home, I will have it recovered on Monday. Also, the exhaust outlets are sooty so, it's been running rich however, having just been out and checked it, it seems to be running fine again?

'Has anyone had any experience of this problem?'

Just as a side note, theer are some revisions on my model. The steering wheel is a new model with a 'golden' bull in the centre, the engine cover (cylinder head) has been changed, and the handbrake only travels half as far up.

Webbo

 

[ltadmin]

Hey Andy, welcome to LTalk.

yes many guys have experienced this same problem. It requires a visit back to the dealer.

perhaps something in the pre-delivery inspection may be being overlooked in many cases?

 

[chris_m]

I have had similar warning light come 6-10 and i had car recovered they said it was faulty exhaust sensors which they changed 2 days later the light flashed up again. I have spoken at length about this with L. London and they are of the opinion that as the light only only comes on for 2-3 mins on start up and then goes out the computer is happy that the fault is rectified it could be a slightly high emission reading ( they are set at + - 2% ) which is evidently rather tight . My car seems to occur either if the car has got wet ie in the rain or after washing or now we have the damp nights if parked outside untill the early hours but only on start up, they assure me the coil seal covers have been changed. Not an answer for you but at least you are not alone, i would be interested to hear if they find a fault.
What colour have you gone for and where are you based ?

 

[bj 1]

Webbo,sure you will get your car sorted promptly.i am interested in the 'new' steering wheel.Any chance of a picture?Is your car a '04 MY or are '05's now availible?

 

[Webbo]

Thanks guys,

This fault today happened after 2 hours in traffic. Obviously, with a new car there were lots of noises and smells to take in and I was paranoid enough as it was. I'll still get it checked over by Lamborghini on Monday. I bought mine from L London too btw.

It's Nero Osyris with black, and red stitching. Satnav and a few other bits. Very happy with it in every other sense. The guys are L-London (Bruce, Steve, Rick, Luke, Dom) were tops and everything went smoothly until 20 miles down the road.

I'm based in Kent, U.K. btw.

Andy

 

[Webbo]

Pic of the steering wheel and new cylinder head cover. I think it's just some tweaks on the existing spec, not a new model.

Andy

 

[bmwracer]

i wouldn't be overly concerned by it specially if you turn the car off and start it again and it is gone.I have had it happen to me a few times when the car was new and it was nothing.I think some of the sensors are really overly sensitive to fluctuations in emissions and moisture.
Odds are it will be nothing at all.Get it checked out anyway for peace of mind.
Welcome aboard by the way.

 

[Webbo]

Thanks guys for the advice, and the warm welcome.

Andy

 

[chris_m]

Any update on the problem as mine has started acting up again and i thought it may save some time if they had come up with something

 

[bunkhound]

Engine warning display

Not sure if this related, but sounds like it could be. Last week I posted details on the V10 forum regarding my Gallardo coughing and dying by the side of the road, apparently according to the dealer from the "water in the coil pack" problem. Funny thing is that it was two days before that, when I had last washed the car, and it had been running fine for two days subsequently,(although it not done very many miles - about 40, I guess). He said there was heaps of water in somewhere (can't remember his exact words), so he's probably right.

When the problem occured, bank 1-5 engine warning display came on, and also 1-5 Cat problem (probably 'cos of the unburnt fuel going into the cat).

The dealer has performed the coil pack upgrade and replaced bank 1-5 Catolytic converter, and I was expecting to get the car back today. But alas, they phoned me and said that whilst the engine seems to be running fine, after a short while of running, 1-5 engine warning light comes back on. So they are now investigating this.

Has anyone had these symptoms after the coil pack upgrade, or a "water" problem causing the engine warning display to come on? I have never had the engine warning light come on before this all happened.

Webbo, my exhaust is always rather sooty on the ends of the pipes.

Problem is, that I have now been without the car for a week, and I am starting to fret and suffer withdrawal symptoms!

 

[bunkhound]

Got my Gallardo back yesterday. The final problem causing the engine light to come back on, even after the coils and cat had been replaced, was due to a blown fuse supplying one of the coils. This was the coil that had got most of the water in it. Seems each coil must be independently fused. Everything seems back to normal now, and the car is running fine.

The dealer also did the "updates" that I received notification about in the mail, from the factory. My car was a June delivery, and it already had the latest ECU/e-gear software in it.

 

[ltadmin]

Got my Gallardo back yesterday. The final problem causing the engine light to come back on, even after the coils and cat had been replaced, was due to a blown fuse supplying one of the coils. This was the coil that had got most of the water in it. Seems each coil must be independently fused. Everything seems back to normal now, and the car is running fine.

The dealer also did the "updates" that I received notification about in the mail, from the factory. My car was a June delivery, and it already had the latest ECU/e-gear software in it.

Duly Noted and Recorded fot fiture reference!!!

 

[gforce]

Got my Gallardo back yesterday. The final problem causing the engine light to come back on, even after the coils and cat had been replaced, was due to a blown fuse supplying one of the coils. This was the coil that had got most of the water in it. Seems each coil must be independently fused. Everything seems back to normal now, and the car is running fine.

The dealer also did the "updates" that I received notification about in the mail, from the factory. My car was a June delivery, and it already had the latest ECU/e-gear software in it.

what updates are those?

 

[chris]

I had a similar problem and was fixed a couple weeks ago. The service centre people said it is due to the dirty valve of the engine, they said they had cleaned it and it should be going fine. However, it happened again a few days ago. But I found one thing that it usually happen after 2 hour of driving. No idea what is the really reason, I never have this experience in other cars.

 

[bunkhound]

Dirty valve???

The service centre people said it is due to the dirty valve of the engine.

"Dirty valve"? Well that's a new one.

I think something may have got lost in the translation from service department, to customer - I hope !

Are they refering to some other valves, besides the obvious ones?

 

[bunkhound]

Updates

gforce,

Sorry, I don't have too many details on the updates, they were not individually detailed on the letter I got from Italy), but I think they were listed on a posting on this forum by mmh a couple of months ago.

As far as I can remember, there were same bolts that needed to be changed, the coil pack water problem upgrade, and software upgrades. As it turned out, most of them were not required on my car (except of course the coil pack seal upgrade - and unfortunately I fell foul of the problem before the upgrade was done)

 

[chris_m]

Ive had the coil seals upgraded according to my dealer but the engine light still flashes up intermitently, i now cover the engine when cleaning the car and this seems to help but if the car is left out untill late on a damp night the light comes on when i fire up, maybe condensation on something electrical i dont know. I have also noticed that when this light comes on the revs bounce between 1000 and 2000 rpm, A bit annoying to say the least as the thought of a problem is some what worrying, but still a great car.
Any further help would be greatly recieved as i am loathed to put the car in for the dealer to investigate and again not get it sourse of the problem.

 

[jamesketchell]

I now cover the engine when cleaning the car and this seems to help but if the car is left out untill late on a damp night the light comes on when i fire up, maybe condensation on something electrical i dont know.

Chris I leave my car out all night at the moment as there is work going on in my garage and no room for storage at the moment. Its been raining hard on and off all week and i don't have any warning lights on start up. Also washing the car (i have the clear engine cover version) Ive never experienced any water getting into places it shouldn't. I think there must be another explanation. Sorry i cant be off any more help.

 

[Webbo]

Mine went back in as it also developed a clutch problem after 1 day. Got it back today, sat in rush hour traffic and the EOBD 6-10 warning came back on. Tried later on in the evening and all seems well again? Was having some problems with hunting for idle and subsequent stalling when in neutral also.

As mine's less than 2 weeks old, it already had coil covers etc? I'll ask them to take another lookk at first service.

While it was in, I had Armorfend and a sports exhaust fitted. I went for the Larini after MUCH consideration and comparison. I'll post seperately on my reasons and experiences (once I've had some) and also some clips but, first impressions... I absolutely love it!!!

Andy

 

[jamesketchell]

With HR Owen are doing installation of the Larini exhaust at their own service centre, its a way of ensuring they don't kick any warranty claims i guess. Another member here went for the larini too and had Lambo London do the install too.