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I need to know where they hid, the port for testing on 2008 Murcie. Also, I am seriously considering dropping the dreaded e-gear for the transformation to a 6-speed manual. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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The ODBII port is under the dash above the gas pedal.

I don’t remember if the 08’s still have the 4 pin Lara port under the passenger side dash, of if they use the ODBII port for everything.

The road to 6 speed conversions is littered with the skeletons of those that have tried and failed, so you have to feel lucky before trying.
 

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The ODBII port is under the dash above the gas pedal.

I don’t remember if the 08’s still have the 4 pin Lara port under the passenger side dash, of if they use the ODBII port for everything.

The road to 6 speed conversions is littered with the skeletons of those that have tried and failed, so you have to feel lucky before trying.
Concerning a conversion, You would have better luck starting with a fiero chassis
 

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The ODBII port is under the dash above the gas pedal.

I don’t remember if the 08’s still have the 4 pin Lara port under the passenger side dash, of if they use the ODBII port for everything.

The road to 6 speed conversions is littered with the skeletons of those that have tried and failed, so you have to feel lucky before trying.
My LP640 has both the OBD and Lara ports as described by Stimpy above. In my experience, the Lara and OBD were both used.

Hope this is helpful.
 

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Thank you...I found the OBD port in front of the gas pedal and up high. Have to be contortionist to get to it but I did.

Even though the e-gear would not go in any gear. I did not get any codes. Why would that be? I am using an UTEL diagnostic unit that does very well so that I would have thought some code would have popped up. I am beginning to believe that the 2-inch oil drop under the middle of the car (if inside the car and looking straight down where the gear shift lever would be) is the e-gear green oil. Possibly an accumulator leaking?
Another problem is getting under the car...the underside panels make a side lift impossible; the front only would seem easiest...any suggestions on how to lift the car so I can get under there to see where the oil is coming from? I have a large scissors floor lift but that cannot be used to lift the car according to Lambo.

With reference to the e-gear to 6 speed ....in my opinion, it is the only solution to a very poor design hydraulic system (e-gear). Drift Works (You Tube) has accomplished as well as many others successfully and the reward is unmeasurable.
 

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With reference to the e-gear to 6 speed ....in my opinion, it is the only solution to a very poor design hydraulic system (e-gear). Drift Works (You Tube) has accomplished as well as many others successfully and the reward is unmeasurable.
Driftworks didn't really convert the Murci to 6-speed, they basically started over. Check out their video in detail to see if you really want to go as far as they did, including changing the entire engine management system.

Post links to these "many others." I only know of one guy that posted on Facebook that he had it done after a year of hard work, and he was traumatized by the experience.
 

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The brake lights do work. Thanks very much for the lift points but I need to get the entire car off the ground using a floor jack. My lift will not bridge as noted; strictly scissors high lift but no lift points for Lambo.
Where can one jack up the entire front end? Maybe lifting from side will do it.
 

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I was told "All Things Motors" and " FS Garage " have converted the Murci also. I have not checked into those at this point.

I am presently working with a gentleman(garage) in the Phoenixville, Pa area that seems to be very knowledgeable and may be of some assistance.
 

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The brake lights do work. Thanks very much for the lift points but I need to get the entire car off the ground using a floor jack. My lift will not bridge as noted; strictly scissors high lift but no lift points for Lambo.
Where can one jack up the entire front end? Maybe lifting from side will do it.
Lifting from one side will twist the frame, I've heard of people using 2 jacks in sync with the front lift points, but it's not an officially recommended procedure, so at your own risk.
 

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Could you maybe place blocks on your scissor lift to hit the jack points or will that not work? I'm guessing they are too far towards the center.
 

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I’m guessing you also watched the Hoovies Garage video about his LP640 that wouldn’t go into first gear without him having to push to get it rolling :)
Yep! But it's definitely the first thing to check after reading so many posts on here about that being the issue. I've seen what the brake light switch looks like on inside, and I am surprised the delicate little plastic parts don't break every 6 months. Terrible design.

I had never seen any post describing how to get the car into gear by pushing it, so I think everyone with an e-gear should watch that Hoovies video instead of calling a tow truck right away. But I'd also keep a spare brake like switch in the car and practice quick change outs if I had an e-gear.
 

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My scissors lift does not allow use of extended arms that is required on the rear (inboard) on the Murci. I believe a bridge will work on the lift, but the manufacturer does not make them.

I did trace the oil leak to the green fluid /e-gear. The reservoir was low, so I topped it up. I then achieved neutral and first. After bleeding the e-gear (side of trans three screws) I can get up to 4th with the key on, engine not running. Therefore, I believe that the problem is a leak, most likely the accumulator as failure.

I will not repair this at this point. I am working with a few others on getting rid of the e-gear once and for all with a change to manual 6 speed. Once removed, I will sell the e-gear (when repaired and sorted). Always a market for a $15-20,000 bit. I will stay on this thread to advise on my progress. To say it cannot be done, is incorrect and is not as complicated as thought (all of our combined thinking.... may live to regret it!!
 

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My scissors lift does not allow use of extended arms that is required on the rear (inboard) on the Murci. I believe a bridge will work on the lift, but the manufacturer does not make them.

I did trace the oil leak to the green fluid /e-gear. The reservoir was low, so I topped it up. I then achieved neutral and first. After bleeding the e-gear (side of trans three screws) I can get up to 4th with the key on, engine not running. Therefore, I believe that the problem is a leak, most likely the accumulator as failure.

I will not repair this at this point. I am working with a few others on getting rid of the e-gear once and for all with a change to manual 6 speed. Once removed, I will sell the e-gear (when repaired and sorted). Always a market for a $15-20,000 bit. I will stay on this thread to advise on my progress. To say it cannot be done, is incorrect and is not as complicated as thought (all of our combined thinking.... may live to regret it!!
I'm with you Doc!
I have a manual 03 and I yearn to convert my 07 LP640 to match.

You'll need a shifter assembly and a pedal box.
Do you have a source?

Generic parts should work for the slave and master cylinder. Pick a throwout bearing to match.
I believe the eGear shifter mounting bracket can be modified.
These guys had to build a custom shifter linkage, getting the length right looks involved:

Ultimately, the challenge seems to be getting the ECU to play along. They gave up on that.
 
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