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So recently having sold my gated anniversario gallardo 560-2 I was left lamboless and began actively seeking a replacement --

A chance came up over the last weekend to go up to Vegas to see some family and I thought why not rent something for a few hours while I'm there! At first I was going to rent out a GT3RS - and after a bit of deliberation decided, having never driven a Huracan to book that instead!

Day of I was excited and did not know what to expect! It was almost all of the jitters of buying and selling a lambo, minus the hassle of dealing with both --

I picked up a gorgeous Verde Ithaca 2016 LP610-4 from Royalty Exotic Rentals, right behind the strip (they came highly recommended, and have a nice selection of vehicles). After having spent 4 hours in the car yesterday, and a previous LP570-4 and a gated 560-2 owner - here are my brief impressions!

This is gonna be a bit of a rambling (and it's late and I'm tired as I just got back) - lets start with the CONS.

I'm not going to lie - my first impression in the first few minutes was a giant 'MEH'. This thing is $300K...NEW? Puttering out of the parking lot and circling a few streets to get out of the strip area mayhem - there was not much in the car experience that felt much different than some of the more recent Audis I've owned.

It was 'very easy to drive' and navigate. The steering was light, responsive and modern. The gear changes (though much better than e-gear) in automatic mode were still a bit clunky. The sound seemed to take a slight step back even over the previous two gallardos I had. Biggest shocker? All the plastic on the interior. That was my sorest disappointment. Nothing inside the car felt 'expensive'. I know some of these issues were addressed later on in the H line, especially so with the performante.

It took me all of 25 minutes to get to Summerlin - grab a quick lunch before heading of to Red Rock Canyon.

Now here is where the fun begins. Throwing her in Corsa mode, dropping a few gears and stepping on the pedal - well you know the rest. Car hauls @ss like no other. Definitely a level up over my previous Gs. The dual clutch (under hard acceleration) is a huge improvement over the e-gear (which I hated!). The gearbox is still not as 'refined' as I thought it would be, and offers quite a bit of kick back with gear changes - which is great.

After about an hour of taking some of the red rock roads - is where my impression of the car began to completely turn around. Why? It is the most driveable and livable supercar I have been in! What it lacks in driving emotion - it makes up in usability. With my previous lambos - I never had the urge to drive them and be in them longer than an hour - and what I instantly noticed with the H is how usable it is over all types of environments!

In the 4 hours I had her - the car never 'grew tired' on me. I almost felt like it would be a GREAT road trip car (and I would never say that of my previous 997 911s and 2 Gallardos). I can totally relate to how someone can use these daily without a problem. I also now understand of members here who mentioned having a G and and H - and the G would be the one staying back in the garage. This is the first sportscar that I would not mind taking on longer, backroad drives without thinking twice - and that is its main appeal to me. It is not very 'high strung'. ALSO - and a huge pro to me is the car is also very manageable, stable and subdued on the freeway (even on 20s!), something I did find much of in my previous sports cars.

The H has an 'ease' about it which makes it easy to love, once I overlook the few flaws. For me, it took a bit of time for the car to grow on me - and now I see what the big deal is - and oddly I now really want one :D:D

I'm not sure what I'm going to do, as I still want a manual car of some sort, and might pick up a stick GT3, 997, or boxster spyder alongside the H - if I decide to go this route. I was never big on the H lines - but getting in and out of the car, taking pictures along the way - and evaluating her from various angles made me lust after the modern lambo aesthetic!

I'm also not sure of 610 vs 580 route - as I usually enjoy RWD, and lighter steering feel - but the 610 steering was great, and the car did not feel 'heavy' (unlike my 570-4).

As great of a drivers car that my gated 560-2 was - the H made me forget all about her and cured my recent 'break-up'! I did not want to give her back after my time was up - and could have easily spent the rest of the day enjoying her !!

This H did have a smidge over 65K miles on her - and was still solid as a rock - which goes to the testament of how well build these machines are.

Anyways - not sure if I added anything beyond what was discovered of the H before - but here are some pictures I took along the way!! Side Note: Verde Ithaca is gorgeous in person! Changes greatly depending on the light and REALLY pops in the sun. Now dilemmas in my head as I'm off to bed!










 

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The 610 w/magneto is great for those who want a fast, capable super car that is comfortable, refined and can become a DD. For those wanting a more thrilling ride, with greater feedback and connectivity between car and driver, it will be found lacking. Going from a Balboni, the rawness for those who value that quality, was completely emasculated in the 610, now erring excessively on the side of detachment. The lion was transformed into a pussy cat. Instead of buying the 610, a purer driving experience can be had with the 580 and without magneto. That set up is more compelling, with gobbs more driver involvement. The 580 is more nimble, manouvrable and feels much lighter. The downside is wheel spin is inevitable upon lauch from a stop.

For those who embrace the civility of the 610, I would recommend the Mclaren 720S which is just as compliant and comfortable but is lightning fast. The only downside is engine sound does not compare to the 610.

The best of all worlds remains the HP. It encompasses the best attributes of all those cars mentioned above. Its secret sauce is how uncannily balanced it is on every parameter of performance.
 

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Is that Ithaca or mantis?


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Ithaca - I checked paint code under the hood -- I was curious to verify myself, as I have not seen too many of either in the wild.
 

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Great experience. Thanks for sharing and very interesting to hear a first hand comparison between the two cars.
 

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Corsa mode is designed to give a kick between shifts unlike sport mode. Also sport mode is more rear bias. Glad you had a blast! Just wished the driving mode settings (suspension, steering, shift, etc) were individually controllable like the Gen 2 R8
 

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that has be a very rare VI Huracan, only one I have seen

too bad it's a rental
 

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OP Thanks for this. I’ve been doing some window shopping and recently spent some seat time (in dealership only) in a 610-4, 580-2 and 458. Needless to say, I am very conflicted but similar to you I really want to make sure the car is just as exhilarating to drive as it looks.


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that has be a very rare VI Huracan, only one I have seen

too bad it's a rental
Wow - did not know that VI was rare on the H - but makes sense as I don't think I've came across many (any?) before on the boards or in person at C&Cs. Has to be my favorite green that Lambo makes, and works really really well with the lines on this car.

OP Thanks for this. I’ve been doing some window shopping and recently spent some seat time (in dealership only) in a 610-4, 580-2 and 458. Needless to say, I am very conflicted but similar to you I really want to make sure the car is just as exhilarating to drive as it looks.


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Yes - car has tons of pros and cons - and where it shines is 'usability' as the car does not grow tired on you after hours of driving. With that comes slightly less emotion and driver involvement (compared to both of my Gallardos). Everything seems to be just turned down a notch or two.

The engine whine, tire hum, twichiness, etc are nowhere near as intrusive esp for longer drives. I was surprised at how docile the Huracan was on the freeway, and so far the only Lambo I've been in that I would not mind taking on a longer trip for hours at a time driving.

I'm starting to wonder if the 580-2 is the perfect compromise (and slightly cheaper to boot).

As much as I'm trying to downsize my cars - maybe for me the perfect toy/weekend combo would be a cheaper 6 speed porsche (boxster spyder / 911 ?) + a huracan ... hmm a man can dream right?

fun read. how many miles did you put on your 50th gated LP?
All of 300 :(:(:(

I should have enjoyed her more - but the collect-ability + rareness of that car + combining with manual shift, especially through city driving never made me eager to pull her out of the garage. I'm wondering if I would enjoy a Huracan more in all of these regards ...
 

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The engine whine, tire hum, twichiness, etc are nowhere near as intrusive esp for longer drives. I was surprised at how docile the Huracan was on the freeway, and so far the only Lambo I've been in that I would not mind taking on a longer trip for hours at a time driving.

I'm starting to wonder if the 580-2 is the perfect compromise (and slightly cheaper to boot).

As much as I'm trying to downsize my cars - maybe for me the perfect toy/weekend combo would be a cheaper 6 speed porsche (boxster spyder / 911 ?) + a huracan ... hmm a man can dream right?

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Funny thing is, I also miss having a clutch pedal and I also enjoy taking my weekend warriors on long hauls! Can’t have it all but it seems like you have some really good ideas and heading in the right direction. Perhaps the 580-2 in Corsa mode is the right fit.


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How was your rental experience (outside of the car) with Royalty Exotics?
I've reserved their Ferrari 458 coming up soon and am curious about your experience from a customer service point of view?
Their written contract/agreement for renting cars is ...troubling and I'm not sure if that's just legal jargon or how they operate. For instance, they say they've installed an RPM monitor so you're not allowed to "rev while in neutral" otherwise face repercussions. Well how much is considered revving?
 

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How was your rental experience (outside of the car) with Royalty Exotics?
I've reserved their Ferrari 458 coming up soon and am curious about your experience from a customer service point of view?
Their written contract/agreement for renting cars is ...troubling and I'm not sure if that's just legal jargon or how they operate. For instance, they say they've installed an RPM monitor so you're not allowed to "rev while in neutral" otherwise face repercussions. Well how much is considered revving?
Much of that 'legal jardon' is to protect their @ss and save face and make sure they have insurance coverage when dealing with bad apples. They are essentially handing out 600hp weapons to anybody with insurance proof and a drivers license - and people do and will get in trouble with rented cars (as many can be way more reckless then their own ones). I treat rentals with as much if not more precaution and care as I do my own cars, so typically that's what I would advise to anyone going the rental route (esp with exotics).

I found the whole experience very smooth and easy. From time to arriving - they go over car with you quickly (~5 minutes) - make sure to take phone pics of anything thats not completely minor. After that you are on your way -- same when I got back, quick 5 minute glance at car after coming back and you're out of there. Smooth, efficient etc. Great attitude of people there.

I've dealt with bad apples before in the exotic rental car industry - and these guys came highly recommended.

Have fun with that 458!!
 

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Thanks for your response! I'm glad you had an excellent experience.

I'm the same with all cars, I'm just cautious by habit and I plan on driving the rental car carefully since I do not want to get into an accident with a car I'm not familiar with.

It will be interesting to compare the 458 Italia with my Performante coupe, I'll report back with some driving comparisons. I choose the 458 because it's also naturally aspirated, and theirs is a Spyder and I've wanted to try that for some time.
 

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Thanks for your response! I'm glad you had an excellent experience.

I'm the same with all cars, I'm just cautious by habit and I plan on driving the rental car carefully since I do not want to get into an accident with a car I'm not familiar with.

It will be interesting to compare the 458 Italia with my Performante coupe, I'll report back with some driving comparisons. I choose the 458 because it's also naturally aspirated, and theirs is a Spyder and I've wanted to try that for some time.
Awesome - enjoy - and looking forward to hearing your input / comparison between the two!
 

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if you're looking to put a lot of miles on a car nothing better than the Huracan or Gen 2 R8

I just sold my R8 for a LP-570 because there just wasn't much excitement for something I drive 2,000 or so miles per year. I just felt like i needed something more raw
 

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Thanks for the write-up! If you're worried about having less "drama" or less "passion" in the driving experience... add turbos to it.

I know Houston (Royalty Exotics owner) and just got to take his TT Huracan out for an entire day up in Valley of Fire State Park two days ago. You can see the stories on my instagram!

I never really liked the Base Huracan before (but I think Lamborghini absolutely NAILED IT with the H-Performante)... but I can confidently say after driving a TT Huracan on some of the best and smoothest twisty roads in the country... it is absolutely addicting. It's how the car should have come from the factory (and maybe it will in the future... when the H replacement is released!?). The power is so linear. The turbos make it sound like a fighter jet. And the exhaust note is still there (so it sounds much better than say, a McLaren). Not to mention, the car has 73,000 miles on it w/ stock motor and trans... and turbo kit has been on for 15,000 of those miles (with people BEATING on it and not knowing how to drive). Still holding up strong. What a great testament to the over-engineering Lamborghini did for these cars.

Call B-Rogue. Call Dallas Performance. Call UGR. Call whoever... and slap those turbos on baby!! Today!

PS. Royalty Exotics are good people.
 

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Thanks for the write-up! If you're worried about having less "drama" or less "passion" in the driving experience... add turbos to it.

I know Houston (Royalty Exotics owner) and just got to take his TT Huracan out for an entire day up in Valley of Fire State Park two days ago. You can see the stories on my instagram!

I never really liked the Base Huracan before (but I think Lamborghini absolutely NAILED IT with the H-Performante)... but I can confidently say after driving a TT Huracan on some of the best and smoothest twisty roads in the country... it is absolutely addicting. It's how the car should have come from the factory (and maybe it will in the future... when the H replacement is released!?). The power is so linear. The turbos make it sound like a fighter jet. And the exhaust note is still there (so it sounds much better than say, a McLaren). Not to mention, the car has 73,000 miles on it w/ stock motor and trans... and turbo kit has been on for 15,000 of those miles (with people BEATING on it and not knowing how to drive). Still holding up strong. What a great testament to the over-engineering Lamborghini did for these cars.

Call B-Rogue. Call Dallas Performance. Call UGR. Call whoever... and slap those turbos on baby!! Today!

PS. Royalty Exotics are good people.
Yeah I've eyed that H there as well - but figured first time in one I should stick to driving stock or else I will never be able to 'settle' for one initially haha. I really enjoyed renting from them - and might be back in a month or two to check out some other cars that they got.

I'm a big manual lover - and not sure if the H has what it takes to keep the driving involvement part intact - but now thinking I might pick up a 6 speed 911 or boxster spyder alongside the H if I decide to go that route. I loved the fact that the H is so easily driveable, around town and especially over longer distance and hoping that it wont be as much of garage queen for me as my 2 previous Gs.

Excited to see what you will end up with next! I'm actively looking for the right H as well.
 

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Thanks for the write-up! If you're worried about having less "drama" or less "passion" in the driving experience... add turbos to it.

I know Houston (Royalty Exotics owner) and just got to take his TT Huracan out for an entire day up in Valley of Fire State Park two days ago. You can see the stories on my instagram!

I never really liked the Base Huracan before (but I think Lamborghini absolutely NAILED IT with the H-Performante)... but I can confidently say after driving a TT Huracan on some of the best and smoothest twisty roads in the country... it is absolutely addicting. It's how the car should have come from the factory (and maybe it will in the future... when the H replacement is released!?). The power is so linear. The turbos make it sound like a fighter jet. And the exhaust note is still there (so it sounds much better than say, a McLaren). Not to mention, the car has 73,000 miles on it w/ stock motor and trans... and turbo kit has been on for 15,000 of those miles (with people BEATING on it and not knowing how to drive). Still holding up strong. What a great testament to the over-engineering Lamborghini did for these cars.

Call B-Rogue. Call Dallas Performance. Call UGR. Call whoever... and slap those turbos on baby!! Today!

PS. Royalty Exotics are good people.
Interesting read! What kind of turbo kit was this?
This was the royal exotics TT huracan they just got like 1 month?
Are they letting renters launch and race the car if they want to?

I agree with you that a TT huracan adds some good excitement to a car that actually drives realllly good when stock. Get in a murcielago, and your not sure it’s going to be a great to drive across the USA car, a huracan is the opposite to this.
 

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Interesting read! What kind of turbo kit was this?
Get in a murcielago, and your not sure it’s going to be a great to drive across the USA car, a huracan is the opposite to this.
This!! - After ~20 minutes in the Huracan I actually told my wife I def would not mind taking this on a long road trip - and I've NEVER said that about any other sports car I've owned or rode in. But as others have said - you pay for that in being less raw and involving to drive at the same time.
 

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Reporting back from my rental car experience with Royalty Exotics in Vegas.

I did a bachelor party weekend that was very car themed.
My buddies and I all rented cars - I rented the 458 Spyder from Royalty Exotics. Several other cars in the mix were a Huracan 580-2 Coupe from their competitor (Dream Exotics?), a Corvette convertible from Hertz, Range Rover, etc.

Overall customer service from Royalty is great. They have good communication and attention to detail, they help you get familiar with the car, and they have an awesome show room. The owner (Houston) showed me their new line up of custom exhaust systems including one they made for the Performante.

The 458 Sypder is an interesting experience, quite different from my 19 Performante Coupe. Despite being RWD, the Spyder has no problem putting down power whatsoever under less than ideal conditions (cold). This stands in stark contrast to my 16 Corvette Z06 which is the opposite and has problems putting down power anytime anywhere under any circumstances (almost).

Things I liked about the 458:
- great exhaust noise (naturally aspirated)
- great power
- great braking
- steering is sharp, responsive
- suspension is comfortable
- design has aged well over the last 10 years

Things I didn't like about the 458:
- The rear is twitchier than I'd expected
- The gearbox could shift gears faster
- the "rough road" button doesn't seem to do anything at all (but it doesn't need it)
- The convertible mechanism takes a long time to go up/down
- The digital gauges flanking the center analog tach are not well designed. The tach is gorgeous, but everything else is not well displayed.
- Just a personal thing, but I do not like the way the car is shut off. There is no "Park" button, you just leave in neutral and turn the damn thing off (which is accomplished by turning a key) with your foot on the brake. Also, why is the red START button used for turning on the car but not turning off the car? LOL, everyone in my group had problems figuring this out. It seems unnatural.
- The placement of the Horn buttons on the steering wheel rim (not center). It didn't take long for me to accidentally press them. In a sad but funny moment, I happened to be stopping in front of an old couple walking across the parking lot lane I was in, and I accidentally hit the horn scaring the old couple. They certainly jumped. I felt really really really bad. The look on the old guy's face was just...of complete disappointment.

We drove through Valley of Fire and Red Rock Canyon and other roads around Vegas.
Would do again. If anyone wants to do something similar, would recommend Royalty Exotics.
 
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