[efg2014]

Here is the article and my shoot from the hip assessment is to ban electric cars Sure there could be other reasons, but I"m ignoring them and am convinced it is the evil electric car


The cargo ship Felicity Ace is aflame from bow to stern with a lithium-ion battery fire that can’t be put out with water alone. The ship left Germany on Feb. 10 and headed for the US with about 4,000 Porsches, Bentleys and other luxury cars aboard, and some of those were electric vehicles.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/m/89f92b55-1de3-3d87-a4ec-9226cf1bc6c6/lithium-ion-batteries-are.html

 

[Russk]

Sounds right to me, EVs the culprit.

 

[Lambo2018]

I"m ignoring them and am convinced it is the evil electric car

The preferred mode of travel of Satan.

 

[Cliff.1620]

I hope its EV car batteries and not lithium-ion batteries because I bought antigravity battery a few months ago and put it in the SL. Lol.....

 

[static_analysis]

Heh, I’ve run a lightweight lithium-iron battery from Voltphreaks in my R8 for many years, an 8 pound battery compared to the OEM 60 pound one.

Lithium-iron batteries do not combust, they vent. And if they did combust, you could still put it out like a normal fire. They are much safer and don’t really just explode. Wonder why car manufacturers don’t use them more. Maybe something to do with cold weather.

 

[Cliff.1620]

Heh, I’ve run a lightweight lithium-iron battery from Voltphreaks in my R8 for many years, an 8 pound battery compared to the OEM 60 pound one.

Lithium-iron batteries do not combust, they vent. And if they did combust, you could still put it out like a normal fire. They are much safer and don’t really just explode. Wonder why car manufacturers don’t use them more. Maybe something to do with cold weather.

Whew..... Thank you! Good because I love mine. Went from 60 lbs to 15 lbs..... Yay, still keeping my lithium-ion battery. LOL

 

[static_analysis]

lithium-iron

 

[EvanK]

Really depends on the lithium-ion battery chemistry, they are NOT all created equal. Although lithium-iron-phosphate is the most common you'll see commercially and is very safe and nearly impossible to induce thermal runaway leading to fire or explosive failure, lithium-cobalt-oxide (used in many power tools) and lithium-nickel-cobalt-aluminum (used in power tools and more notably Teslas) are both very dangerous under certain conditions. They can exhibit thermal runaway of 470 C per minute under specific conditions such as overload under adverse climate conditions or overcharge, which is plenty to cause a fire and even an explosion of the lithium-ion cell.

No doubt in my mind that's what happened on board Felicity Ace.

 

[Russk]

Really depends on the lithium-ion battery chemistry, they are NOT all created equal. Although lithium-iron-phosphate is the most common you'll see commercially and is very safe and nearly impossible to induce thermal runaway leading to fire or explosive failure, lithium-cobalt-oxide (used in many power tools) and lithium-nickel-cobalt-aluminum (used in power tools and more notably Teslas) are both very dangerous under certain conditions. They can exhibit thermal runaway of 470 C per minute under specific conditions such as overload under adverse climate conditions or overcharge, which is plenty to cause a fire and even an explosion of the lithium-ion cell.

No doubt in my mind that's what happened on board Felicity Ace.

That seems to be what they are saying at this time. I guess we won't know for sure until it gets to port and inspected, and I'll bet that is weeks away.

 

[efg2014]

That seems to be what they are saying at this time. I guess we won't know for sure until it gets to port and inspected, and I'll bet that is weeks away.

The ship may sink before it gets to port per the article.

 

[Lambo2018]

The ship may sink before it gets to port per the article.

Would not be surprised.

 

[efg2014]

There is hope :

Fire subsides on huge cargo ship adrift in mid-Atlantic

LISBON, Portugal (AP) — A fire aboard a ship carrying cars in the mid-Atlantic is dying out, a Portuguese navy officer said Tuesday, and the huge vessel is expected to be towed to the Bahamas. The blaze on the Felicity Ace has burned for six days near Portugal’s Azores Islands.

apnews.com

 

[Lambo2018]

There is hope :

Fire subsides on huge cargo ship adrift in mid-Atlantic

LISBON, Portugal (AP) — A fire aboard a ship carrying cars in the mid-Atlantic is dying out, a Portuguese navy officer said Tuesday, and the huge vessel is expected to be towed to the Bahamas. The blaze on the Felicity Ace has burned for six days near Portugal’s Azores Islands.

apnews.com

I doubt there is much hope for the ships contents given the Felicity Ace lacks bulkheads.

"The lack of internal bulkheads can have an adverse impact on fire safety and a small fire on one vehicle or battery can grow out of control very quickly. Vehicles are not easily accessible once loading has been completed."

Ship on Fire Carrying Porsches, Bentleys, VWs Included Many EVs: Report

The salvage crew working on the burning Felicity Ace ship now say electric-vehicle batteries are part of the reason it is still aflame after several days, the Wall Street Journal is reporting.

www.caranddriver.com