[Slammp]

Ok, question for the Gallardo masses. I'm pretty sure my clutch is on its final breath (07 spyder with just over 20k) I am now getting a sound similar to belt squeak in 1st gear when the engine is cold and first gear feels as if it is feathering on/off more than it used to. Once everything is warmed up it goes away, but if I stomp on in pulling away from a dead stomp I will get the squeal sound for a moment.

Anyway fast forward to the fix. Lamborghini Boston has quoted me a ballpark of $10k (yeah). Autohaus of Boston has a couple options. OEM clutch replacement was quoted just below $10k but then they gave me two rebuild options through a company in Orange NJ who rebuilds the clutch. For roughly $8,800 they can rebuild the existing using carbon kevlar to last longer. (I'm told they rebuild everything, throw out bearing included). For approx. $1,000 less they can rebuild OEM.

1) Has anyone here ever had a clutch rebuilt as opposed to replaced?- I had never heard of this previously.
2) Does anyone in MA/NH/RI/CT know of a shop that has done a Gallardo Clutch for lower than the numbers above. I keep hearing $4k-$7k range online, but based on my phone calls I appear to be dreaming at that price point.

 

[German-LP140]

Hi. I bought an original clutch for $ 2,000 from Lamborghini Newport Beach CA (5 years ago). The release bearing was $ 500. I think that's ok for the next 40,000 miles. Installation is the most expensive. But I did it myself.

 

[Slammp]

Thanks. Unfortunately repairing myself is not a route I want to go both for time sake and the fact that I've only ever done one clutch job previously and really don't want to be experimenting on the Gallardo (plus I have an E-Gear and have heard that I still need to have the car reprogrammed by Lambo to accept the new clutch).

As it stands I have an appt. on Friday with the dealer to do a snap and confirm that I indeed need a new clutch (I have to drop the car at the dealer anyway to have a new key I purchased programmed).

I was really hoping to find a cheaper alternative but to save $1,200 by going to an Indy is not enough for me. The dealership warranty on their work is worth more in piece of mind if anything goes wrong. I'm going to call Paramus in NJ as well just to compare pricing. Its a much longer drive for me but if the price is significantly better it may be worth it.

 

[BaystateG]

I am in MA as well but perform most of the routine maintenance on my G so have not yet had the need to bring it into a shop. But, I have talked to a few guys who have their Lambos/Ferraris serviced at Eurotech in Natick. I have also heard good things about Silver Arrow in Litchfield NH.

 

[EvanK]

I've seen people throw around similar figures for a clutch job ($4-7k) on this forum and quite honestly find it to be total BS. My closest reputable independent shop, Black Horse Motorwerks, quoted me $12K for the job. I decided I'll just do it myself and searched for the bottom dollar on all new OEM parts for my clutch job, and just the parts were right around $5k (purchased everything in 2020). Labor would be a few thousand at minimum at any decent independent shop. If someone got it done cheaper, let me know what parts were used and where/how!

Regarding rebuilding the clutch, I looked into that as well but found some bad stories about GTE Engineering and their clutches not engaging properly (on Ferrari/Maserati forums as well), not to mention some seedy behaviors from them. I decided it was not worth any potential headache just to save a few thousand.

 

[Ravill]

You can probably find OEM parts with an updated LP throwout bearing for around $3k.

Doing it yourself isn’t that bad. I’ve done it and the procedure is well documented here.

Once you’re done, just tow the car to your nearest shop (doesn’t even have to be a dealership), or you might even be able to sweet talk them into coming to you to reset your PIS.

That would be WAY cheaper than $12k.

 

[EvanK]

You can probably find OEM parts with an updated LP throwout bearing for around $3k.

Doing it yourself isn’t that bad. I’ve done it and the procedure is well documented here.

Once you’re done, just tow the car to your nearest shop (doesn’t even have to be a dealership), or you might even be able to sweet talk them into coming to you to reset your PIS.

That would be WAY cheaper than $12k.

Probably being able to find the parts for that price, and actually finding/buying the parts for that price is a different story. To me the job requires at a minimum the following:

1 X 7L105269F New OEM F version clutch/flywheel assembly
1 X 86141671L New OEM throw-out bearing
1 X 7L105276 New OEM pilot bearing
1 X 86141297 New OEM clutch position sensor
1 X 7L103051A New OEM rear main seal
8 X WHT000938 New OEM flywheel hardware
3 X N10124306 New OEM throwout bearing hardware
1 X N90111302 O-ring
1 X WHT002218 O-ring
4 L tutela cs speed fluid or Pentosin chf-11s

Where do you see all those parts in 2021 for $3k?

 

[Ravill]

OEM clutch ~$2k

t/o bearing ~$600

Pilot Bearing ~$100

seals and orings~$200

Dot4 Brake fluid~ $30

My car was a manual so I didn't have the clutch position sensor, so I don't know what that costs, so barring that, I'm pretty close! 😘

 

[Slammp]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. It is appreciated. BaystateG, thank you. I will reach out to those two shops tomorrow for quotes.

 

[Hi Tech Exotic]

I've seen people throw around similar figures for a clutch job ($4-7k) on this forum and quite honestly find it to be total BS. My closest reputable independent shop, Black Horse Motorwerks, quoted me $12K for the job. I decided I'll just do it myself and searched for the bottom dollar on all new OEM parts for my clutch job, and just the parts were right around $5k (purchased everything in 2020). Labor would be a few thousand at minimum at any decent independent shop. If someone got it done cheaper, let me know what parts were used and where/how!

Regarding rebuilding the clutch, I looked into that as well but found some bad stories about GTE Engineering and their clutches not engaging properly (on Ferrari/Maserati forums as well), not to mention some seedy behaviors from them. I decided it was not worth any potential headache just to save a few thousand.

You're 100% correct about GTE/PEGA. That is the company that Autohaus of Boston is referring to. GTE has a lot of unhappy customers. Here is couple of them:

F1 Pega Clutch Organic Rebuild (Stage 1)

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www.maseratilife.com

This customer had to rebuild his transmission because of PEGA/GET clutch.

Kevlar Clutch

I have the R8 4.2 with R-Tronic. the clutch was slipping so we took it in and had it replaced. We used the Pegas stage 4 clutch with a replacement throw out bearing for the V10 which eveyone says will work. Except the place doing it. They are claming they are struggling with it going into...

www.r8talk.com

Autohaus of Boston is very expensive now. Stay with Lambo of Boston.

If you need a clutch, we have clutches that last 350% longer than a factory clutch.

You can read more from our happy customers here. There are over 470 posts so be patient and read them all.

DIY Lamborghini Gallardo clutch Kevlar kit by Hi Tech...

To all you guys I know there are other threads out there regarding clutch replacement on the Gallardo. I can highly recommend Sean @ Hi Tech Exotics on his very well manufactured Kevlar clutch assembly. The clutch replacement took about 7 days from time of order and shipped to Australia straight...

www.lamborghini-talk.com

 

[Hi Tech Exotic]

OEM clutch ~$2k

t/o bearing ~$600

Pilot Bearing ~$100

seals and orings~$200

Dot4 Brake fluid~ $30

My car was a manual so I didn't have the clutch position sensor, so I don't know what that costs, so barring that, I'm pretty close! 😘

Ravill, unfortunately prices on clutch and throwout bearing have gone up from when you bought yours. In some cases almost 50% more. I believe prices are going up even more.

 

[Ravill]

Sean is the clutch expert! So I stand corrected!!

 

[German-LP140]

Do i need the (07L 103 051 A) New OEM rear main seal ?????

 

[FL_Beachman]

Ok, question for the Gallardo masses. I'm pretty sure my clutch is on its final breath (07 spyder with just over 20k) I am now getting a sound similar to belt squeak in 1st gear when the engine is cold and first gear feels as if it is feathering on/off more than it used to. Once everything is warmed up it goes away, but if I stomp on in pulling away from a dead stomp I will get the squeal sound for a moment.

Anyway fast forward to the fix. Lamborghini Boston has quoted me a ballpark of $10k (yeah). Autohaus of Boston has a couple options. OEM clutch replacement was quoted just below $10k but then they gave me two rebuild options through a company in Orange NJ who rebuilds the clutch. For roughly $8,800 they can rebuild the existing using carbon kevlar to last longer. (I'm told they rebuild everything, throw out bearing included). For approx. $1,000 less they can rebuild OEM.

1) Has anyone here ever had a clutch rebuilt as opposed to replaced?- I had never heard of this previously.
2) Does anyone in MA/NH/RI/CT know of a shop that has done a Gallardo Clutch for lower than the numbers above. I keep hearing $4k-$7k range online, but based on my phone calls I appear to be dreaming at that price point.

Maybe a different world in MA vs FL where I live however with that said we can get a new OEM clutch installed complete with everything for about $4K all day long at multiple well qualified shops here. $10K is dealer pricing. Do not waste your money on a "rebuilt" most of the cost is labor not parts for an OEM clutch. There are lots of exotics in MA, plenty of well qualified non dealer shops that can do this work, if your paying $10K for an OEM clutch my friend you need to look elsewhere. A real simple way to find out if the clutch is near the near the end of its life without a reading -does it grind in reverse or have trouble getting into/staying in reverse? that will be the first to go.

 

[EvanK]

Maybe a different world in MA vs FL where I live however with that said we can get a new OEM clutch installed complete with everything for about $4K all day long at multiple well qualified shops here. $10K is dealer pricing. Do not waste your money on a "rebuilt" most of the cost is labor not parts for an OEM clutch. There are lots of exotics in MA, plenty of well qualified non dealer shops that can do this work, if your paying $10K for an OEM clutch my friend you need to look elsewhere. A real simple way to find out if the clutch is near the near the end of its life without a reading -does it grind in reverse or have trouble getting into/staying in reverse? that will be the first to go.

I hear it over and over again with nothing to back it up...show me where you currently see even just the parts (all new OEM) for that price or show me a quote you received for new OEM clutch replacement that is $4k. As I stated before, I searched for the bottom dollar, any source, on every part listed above to do the job my self in April of 2020 and it all came out to just about $5k...just my parts cost. In fact the OEM clutches and throw-out bearings are even more expensive now than when I bought mine from Scuderia Car Parts in 2020.

 

[EvanK]

Do i need the (07L 103 051 A) New OEM rear main seal ?????

The rear main seal is not necessary to replace, but good practice to replace because you have access to it while the transmission is out. Cheap insurance that you won't be pulling the transmission back out anytime soon chasing an oil leak there.

 

[FL_Beachman]

The rear main seal is not necessary to replace, but good practice to replace because you have access to it while the transmission is out. Cheap insurance that you won't be pulling the transmission back out anytime soon chasing an oil leak there.

100% you must replace while in there its basically free vs another $2k to replace a $200 seal when it leaks

 

[FL_Beachman]

I hear it over and over again with nothing to back it up...show me where you currently see even just the parts (all new OEM) for that price or show me a quote you received for new OEM clutch replacement that is $4k. As I stated before, I searched for the bottom dollar, any source, on every part listed above to do the job my self in April of 2020 and it all came out to just about $5k...just my parts cost. In fact the OEM clutches and throw-out bearings are even more expensive now than when I bought mine from Scuderia Car Parts in 2020.

Not to disagree however going to Scuderia you are paying full retail for the parts. I cant refer to shops in MA however I can in FL who are buying all the parts at far below Scuderia cost. Labor in general at MA shops is higher than FL, again different market, different cost structure. South Florida is literally the exotic car capital of the world and the shops are very competitive and in general far lower than anywhere in the USA due to the volume and in general they can buy the parts wholesale at far lower cost as well-not exactly a straight line comp to MA. We have dozens of snowbirds with exotics -all have their work done here in FL because of cost, some even ship them here during your winter to have work done-again different market dynamics. If I was go online and buy the pieces yes they would be the same price you see because its full retail.

 

[Slammp]

Not to disagree however going to Scuderia you are paying full retail for the parts. I cant refer to shops in MA however I can in FL who are buying all the parts at far below Scuderia cost. Labor in general at MA shops is higher than FL, again different market, different cost structure. South Florida is literally the exotic car capital of the world and the shops are very competitive and in general far lower than anywhere in the USA due to the volume and in general they can buy the parts wholesale at far lower cost as well-not exactly a straight line comp to MA. We have dozens of snowbirds with exotics -all have their work done here in FL because of cost, some even ship them here during your winter to have work done-again different market dynamics. If I was go online and buy the pieces yes they would be the same price you see because its full retail.

This is actually interesting to me. FL Beachman, can you recommend a good FL shop? I would consider shipping if the cost were enough of a savings. I would definitely be interested in entertaining the idea at least. I had the clutch snap done today and confirmed that I have 0.00% left - Lol I'm still driving and its still shifting so hopefully I can milk it until Nov. I tentatively scheduled a mid Nov appt to drop off and have the work done, which gives me time to shop pricing.

 

[FL_Beachman]

This is actually interesting to me. FL Beachman, can you recommend a good FL shop? I would consider shipping if the cost were enough of a savings. I would definitely be interested in entertaining the idea at least. I had the clutch snap done today and confirmed that I have 0.00% left - Lol I'm still driving and its still shifting so hopefully I can milk it until Nov. I tentatively scheduled a mid Nov appt to drop off and have the work done, which gives me time to shop pricing.

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