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Both amazing cars. The egear is basically a manual car with a robotic shifter, still very cool
Yep, Sledge4.2. I explored converting it to manual and it's somewhat cost prohibitive. Driftworks did an LP640 manual conversion. I compared the e-gear gearbox vs. manual gearbox parts diagrams, plus the pedal box, the shift tower, etc... It's about $50k in parts (plus the clutch/TOB/etc. that I need to replace). And I didn't even price out the labor. All in I bet it'd be about $75k. Since I have the manual Diablo, I'll stick with the e-gear LP640 rather than spending that $.
 

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That’s a good call, and while i have never driven an egear, i believe it to feel very manual. I did have a Maserati GTS with the superfast 599 gearbox, which is basiclly the same technology
 

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That’s a good call, and while i have never driven an egear, i believe it to feel very manual. I did have a Maserati GTS with the superfast 599 gearbox, which is basiclly the same technology
Well, it's a little clunky, especially when it's cold (when you first set out in first and it's cold it's kind of jerky). But 1 min later it's fine. And, even though it's an early e-gear, single clutch transmission with "slow shifts" (compared to a Huracan or modern DCT), if I'm honest, it's still shifts faster than I can in my manual Diablo (and I'm a pretty aces manual driver).
 

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Unfortunately, no. It's an e-gear. I bought it in 2018 (I think) from Pat Chittock in Wichita. It's about to go in for a clutch replacement - Hi Tech Exotics HT350 clutch & TOB.

Thanks for the kind words. I am in love with both of them. When people ask which is my favorite, I say, "The Diablo, hands down." And then I take out the LP640 and I'm like, "Hang on... maybe I was wrong..." because the LP640 just sounds amazing.
Actually, in my humble opinion, that’s not a bad position to be in. Having a 6.0 aside a LP640, then having to trade off driving each to see which is your favorite, but not having to part with either…priceless.

Your 6.0 VT looks to have an aftermarket exhaust, how does the rumble of the 6.0 compare to that of the LP640? Is the exhaust on the LP aftermarket as well? Beautiful pair of Bulls you have there.

Initially, I wanted and had planned to buy a 6.0 VT when they were still in my “perceived” price range; I was very close to it when the wife (at the time) dropped the “I want a divorce” on me. The whole thing went to the trash can after that, and I’ve spent the last 9 years catching up. Of course, the price and availability of the 6.0 VT have defiantly changed since then, putting having one out of my reach. So, about a year ago, I picked up a ’04 Murcielago in the color and trim I wanted. And I tell you what…I love it. Although I still would love to have a 6.0 VT, I don’t know that I would trade my Murcielago for a 6.0 VT.
 

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Yep, Sledge4.2. I explored converting it to manual and it's somewhat cost prohibitive. Driftworks did an LP640 manual conversion. I compared the e-gear gearbox vs. manual gearbox parts diagrams, plus the pedal box, the shift tower, etc... It's about $50k in parts (plus the clutch/TOB/etc. that I need to replace). And I didn't even price out the labor. All in I bet it'd be about $75k. Since I have the manual Diablo, I'll stick with the e-gear LP640 rather than spending that $.
Unlike a Gallardo of 430 a manual swap is not as simple as parts on a Murci. It is not really doable. The Driftworks car runs on custom computers.
 

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Actually, in my humble opinion, that’s not a bad position to be in. Having a 6.0 aside a LP640, then having to trade off driving each to see which is your favorite, but not having to part with either…priceless.
Yes, I have worked hard, had some luck, and been blessed. And my wife is mostly over me purchasing the second one.


Your 6.0 VT looks to have an aftermarket exhaust, how does the rumble of the 6.0 compare to that of the LP640? Is the exhaust on the LP aftermarket as well?
They both have aftermarket. The Diablo has a Larini exhaust. It sounds great but not over the top. My neighbors don't hate it too badly. It sounds great on a pull and idling. No droning or any of that.

The LP640 has a Fabspeed exhaust. It was fully straight piped when I bought it (Kansas, where it came from, has no emissions inspection; NY does); also, the car had CEL and wouldn't set monitors because the O2 sensors didn't like what they were smelling. I added Fabspeed spacers to try to fix that but no dice. So I installed Fabspeed sport cats, and after the primary cat it is then straight piped (no secondary cats, no muffler). It is loud as F at low speed (kind of in a bad way -- recently I was outside the car and a mechanic pulled it into the shop and I was like. "Holy F, that's too loud." I hadn't realized because I am always in it.) But then, when you do a pull, it sounds like the gods of thunder. It sounds like a Formula 1 car. It's pretty unbelievable. I have a spot by me where it's the very start of a highway -- you know how I mean... the highway ends at a huge barrier and then woods behind it. When I am showing someone the car, I go there and you come down the on-ramp, don't have to worry about merging because there's no cars coming from the dead end, and there's no cops there. You come down the on ramp and you're doing 60 coming off the ramp and then you drop it to 2nd and pull. As you're pulling you go under an overpass. The PULL is amazing, the SOUND is amazing. It simply blows away anybody who you take. Young, old, woman, man, boy, girl, K9, whatever. Blown away. That's why the LP640 is so special. The sounds. Especially with the Fabspeed and muffler delete.


Although I still would love to have a 6.0 VT, I don’t know that I would trade my Murcielago for a 6.0 VT.
I know EXACTLY what you mean!
 

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Unlike a Gallardo of 430 a manual swap is not as simple as parts on a Murci. It is not really doable. The Driftworks car runs on custom computers.
Yeah, agree. It's not just a matter of adding a third pedal, some shift linkage, and a stick. Even some of the internals in the gearbox are different. And then, yes, there's the ECU. As far as I know there isn't a shop that knows how to reprogram the ECU to know the car is no longer an e-gear and is now manual. Nobody specializes in this that I have found.
 

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Yeah, agree. It's not just a matter of adding a third pedal, some shift linkage, and a stick. Even some of the internals in the gearbox are different. And then, yes, there's the ECU. As far as I know there isn't a shop that knows how to reprogram the ECU to know the car is no longer an e-gear and is now manual. Nobody specializes in this that I have found.
Yeah, I’ve acquired maybe 2/3rds of the parts to do this correctly…I do love a challenge. I work in the technical industry and have my entire career (on the platform hardware engineering side) and I know and work with a lot of firmware people, so hopefully this will help me when I get to the area of the ECU. I also have access to the lasted and some of the oldest programming and testing tools of all kinds. Once something’s been done, it’s always easier to duplicate.
 

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Yeah, I’ve acquired maybe 2/3rds of the parts to do this correctly…I do love a challenge. I work in the technical industry and have my entire career (on the platform hardware engineering side) and I know and work with a lot of firmware people, so hopefully this will help me when I get to the area of the ECU. I also have access to the lasted and some of the oldest programming and testing tools of all kinds. Once something’s been done, it’s always easier to duplicate.
Wow. If you do this, please document it for us! I'm sure everyone here would be stoked to watch you do this! Make a YouTube channel!
 

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Wow. If you do this, please document it for us! I'm sure everyone here would be stoked to watch you do this! Make a YouTube channel!
Yes, I've thought about that as well (documenting most of the process) and plan too. I've done some other things (full Mr. Cool mini split install, PPF install on a Murcielago), but have not made time to edit and post all the videos. I'm going to put my Murcielago on a diet as well, when I get all the parts for this project as I've have several ideas so far acquiring some of the parts I need for this project. Being the perfectionist I am (or maybe I'm just really picky when it comes to how I vision my projects), I've become a good Mmchinist and mechanic by hobby (or maybe by necessity), so I plan on making some of the parts for this project...aircraft titanium is so nice to machine.:)
 

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My neighbors don't hate it too badly.

It is loud as F at low speed (kind of in a bad way -- recently I was outside the car and a mechanic pulled it into the shop and I was like. "Holy F, that's too loud." I hadn't realized because I am always in it.)
I have a similar setup on my car, but it's not a Fabspeed (unfortunately, I did contact them a few months ago about having a custom exhaust made for it, so hopefully it's possible), but it is "F Loud".

I can't use the word "hate" to describe my neighbors affection for me, but I can say that the day after i got the car, I pulled it out to wash it in my driveway (at 7am). One of my neighbors (on his way to work in his VW Passat) stops at my driveway with his passenger window rolled down (as I was kneeling down washing the front bumper) and he says "Lambo huh?" I say "yeah." As I continue to wash and admire the beast...now this neighbor has never said 1 word to me in the 1 year he's lived there. He says to me "it's a little loud, some of us have kids around here!" I reply "oh really?" Now I know that he and his wife don't have kids and the guy is in his mid 30's, so he was probably feeling a little small in the crotch.

Anyway, back to the point, I've watched and listened to those Murcielago Fabspeed exhaust videos many times and the sound is absolutely incredible. I definitely want one on my car. My neighbors already adore me, so why not?
So, you're getting close to or just over 700 ponies then, right? A real kick in the pants for sure!
 

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So, you're getting close to or just over 700 ponies then, right? A real kick in the pants for sure!
No idea if/how much additional HP the Fabspeed got me. When I bought it, it was Fabspeed straight piped from the headers all the way to the tips - zero restrictions. When I added the sport cats I didn't notice any reduction in power. But I don't know what an LP640 feels like with stock exhaust. Never been on a dyno, so never measured it. What I can say is, that car pulls HARD (and, in case I didn't already convey the message, sounds AMAZING doing it!). LOL.
 

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No idea if/how much additional HP the Fabspeed got me. When I bought it, it was Fabspeed straight piped from the headers all the way to the tips - zero restrictions. When I added the sport cats I didn't notice any reduction in power. But I don't know what an LP640 feels like with stock exhaust. Never been on a dyno, so never measured it. What I can say is, that car pulls HARD (and, in case I didn't already convey the message, sounds AMAZING doing it!). LOL.
When I asked Fabspeed about how much of an increase in HP the X pipe would give the Murcielago, they said between 40 – 55 WHP. I would think the LP’s increase would be comparable to that of the Murcielago.
 

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i wanted to buy a fabspeed, but they only sell if you send them the car to custom fit. I understand that, as the various Diablo exhuast fit "somewhat ok", and I am having real difficulties getting the quicksilver to bolt up. each engine is enough different that it makes it tough. That said, I cant ship my car 3000 miles away to have an exhaust fabricated.
 

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i wanted to buy a fabspeed, but they only sell if you send them the car to custom fit. I understand that, as the various Diablo exhuast fit "somewhat ok", and I am having real difficulties getting the quicksilver to bolt up. each engine is enough different that it makes it tough. That said, I cant ship my car 3000 miles away to have an exhaust fabricated.
Really??? That can't be right. How and why do (Fabspeed) distributors advertise the Fabspeed exhaust with "free shipping"?
 

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maybe on the newer cars its different.

this is the email I recieved a few months ago:

Hey Geno,

Thanks for reaching out, we can absolutely build the system to reuse your OEM tips. However, as I am sure you know, each Diablo was handbuilt and thus is its own work of art. Due to such, every system we build for them is different and requires new measurements. To ensure 100% fitment we require the cars to come to our facility in PA for installation.

Let me know if that works for you, we are more than happy to help arrange transport!

Sincerely, John
Cheers,
John Sutor | Marketing Outreach Specialist
P: 215-646-4945

Exotic Car Performance Experts
155 Commerce Drive | Fort Washington, PA 19034 | USA
www.fabspeed.com
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Yeah, this is correct for the Diablo. Not sure why... I guess the fitment varies and needs some massaging to get everything in? Or maybe they add some brackets or something? I dunno. My Diablo 6.0 came with a Larini and sounds pretty good so I didn't switch it.

For my LP640, it came with the Fabspeed installed, but they will ship that so you can install yourself. It's pretty much a direct replacement. When I added my Fabspeed Sport Cats, I just needed to remove that part of the straight-pipe and swap in the cats. In other words, they had one piece of pipe where each primary cat lives, then another piece of pipe heading back to the X-pipe and exhaust. Not too bad. Well designed and amazing sounding stuff.

Based on how good the Fabspeed sounds on my LP640, if my Diablo had a stock exhaust I would probably bring it into Fabspeed to have it done. I am in NY so flatbed to PA is not too expensive.
 

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I am having real difficulties getting the quicksilver to bolt up. each engine is enough different that it makes it tough.
Is part of the exhaust attached enough that you can start the car? You could try connecting the remaining joints or parts once the engine (and attached exhaust parts) are HOT. Using a chain or other tools, try to align the remaining connections. Need to be very careful NOT TO GET BURNED during this process. Have a plan before ever getting the engine/exhaust hot; know what needs to move, how much and what exactly you will use to move the joints when it's hot. I don't know anything about the quicksilver exhaust setup, but this is a method I've used for other exhaust that wouldn't line up. But, if it’s too far off, you just have try to send it back and ask for another setup.
 

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maybe on the newer cars its different.

this is the email I recieved a few months ago:

Hey Geno,

Thanks for reaching out, we can absolutely build the system to reuse your OEM tips. However, as I am sure you know, each Diablo was handbuilt and thus is its own work of art. Due to such, every system we build for them is different and requires new measurements. To ensure 100% fitment we require the cars to come to our facility in PA for installation.

Let me know if that works for you, we are more than happy to help arrange transport!

Sincerely, John
Cheers,
John Sutor | Marketing Outreach Specialist
P: 215-646-4945

Exotic Car Performance Experts
155 Commerce Drive | Fort Washington, PA 19034 | USA
www.fabspeed.com
Sent by Fabspeed Motorsport using Odoo.
I'm sorry; I thought that you were referring to the Murcielago. This is a Diablo 6.0 thread; maybe I should pay attention and stay on point. ;)
 

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maybe on the newer cars its different.

this is the email I recieved a few months ago:

Hey Geno,

Thanks for reaching out, we can absolutely build the system to reuse your OEM tips. However, as I am sure you know, each Diablo was handbuilt and thus is its own work of art. Due to such, every system we build for them is different and requires new measurements. To ensure 100% fitment we require the cars to come to our facility in PA for installation.

Let me know if that works for you, we are more than happy to help arrange transport!

Sincerely, John
Cheers,
John Sutor | Marketing Outreach Specialist
P: 215-646-4945

Exotic Car Performance Experts
155 Commerce Drive | Fort Washington, PA 19034 | USA
www.fabspeed.com
Sent by Fabspeed Motorsport using Odoo.
Perhaps you could take your car and new exhaust to a local (trusted) performance exhaust or muffler shop and have them fit it for you?
 
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