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Like with any purchase, a proper ppi should be done
Unfortunately that doesn't guarantee smooth ownership, when it comes to McLaren, unless you are having someone like the McMedics fly out and do their extremely extensive ppi.

My buddy had a PPI done, by McLaren, car was CPO'd, and his accumulators went out 2 months after purchase, and his roof glass cracked shortly after that. He found out the hard way that the CPO didn't cover either.

Trust me, if I could get Huracan reliability out of a McLaren, I'd have a 765lt in the garage right now, and not the Perf.
 

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Veyron, SLR and several new Porsches.
The only worthwhile Porsche coming through is the 3rs isn’t it? The rest are nothing all too aluring other than perhap CGTS/CT GT as dailys. The 2rs will be a must have but thats still some years off. Veyron sounds good. Upcoming SLR styling looks a long overdue improvement!
 

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Perf would be my choice. I've read too many reliability issues with the McLarens and if something were to go wrong with the 675lt I'd expect a long wait to get it fixed. From what I've heard Lamborghini's service is much better than Mclaren's.

The huracan platform is very reliable. Seen both cars next to each other and I personally think the huracan looks much more aggressive if that's of any importance.
 

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wow…. what a difference. Slaughter!
675Perf

80 - 120 kph (7)13.1 s5.8 s
Goes to show all the stuff we hear about turbo engines having eliminated lag and having good low end torque characteristics.
N/A engines will always offer the superior experience for driving swiftly and taking time to enjoy the car.
Sure, if you are driving a mcl near the redline that makes it fun on track, but does that equal to on street enjoyment?
 

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Well then you’re missing out. A perf to a 765lt wouldn’t even rate on the scales as a driving machine least of all street presence. Game over.
Oh, I'm aware, but sadly I have had too many friends with McLarens, and seen the nightmare unreliability first hand (I've had no less than 4 friends get stuck in their cars, some in the middle of nowhere curing rallies, being forced to break windows to get out). It's just not worth the gamble and potential headaches, for me personally, especially as I was looking for a car I'd keep forever. Thankfully the Perf still dominates the 765lt in the sound category, and in how special the cabin feels. ;)
 

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The 675 has a reputation of being a reliable car in the hands of owners who use them. They don’t like to sit. That said, Huracans benefit from utilizing the VWAG supply base and internal quality systems. They’re pretty much bullet proof.

If outright performance, driving dynamics and rarity is the priority, then 675 > any Huracan.

If sound and assured reliability is most important, then Huracan.

Styling is obviously subjective but the STO is the only H variant that looks better to my eyes.
 

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Based on OP's discription of the 675LT, I'm assuming it's the car at Newport Beach.


Per the Carfax, there was a 3rd party service contract purchased, and 3 claims have been filed. One that caught my attention was:

04/23/20206,757 miMcLaren Newport Beach
Newport Beach, CaliforniaNewport Beach, CA
888-708-2094
newportbeach.mclaren.com
  • Vehicle serviced
    • Service contract claim
    • Engine serviced
    • Tire condition and pressure checked
    • Output shaft seal replaced

I'm not sure if anyone followed along the BaT auction on the most recent Chicane Grey 675LT Spider, but this is the same issue debated on that car. One commenter claimed that PPI at McLaren Sterling says there is no factory authorized repair, and only resolution is transmission replacement.

Carfax says Mclaren Newport Beach performed the seal replacement, so that's a contradiction.

If Mclaren is providing a certified Mclaren warranty, then perhaps the repair is permitted. I would question this rigorously though.
 

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Based on OP's discription of the 675LT, I'm assuming it's the car at Newport Beach.


Per the Carfax, there was a 3rd party service contract purchased, and 3 claims have been filed. One that caught my attention was:

04/23/20206,757 miMcLaren Newport Beach
Newport Beach, CaliforniaNewport Beach, CA
888-708-2094
newportbeach.mclaren.com
  • Vehicle serviced
    • Service contract claim
    • Engine serviced
    • Tire condition and pressure checked
    • Output shaft seal replaced

I'm not sure if anyone followed along the BaT auction on the most recent Chicane Grey 675LT Spider, but this is the same issue debated on that car. One commenter claimed that PPI at McLaren Sterling says there is no factory authorized repair, and only resolution is transmission replacement.

Carfax says Mclaren Newport Beach performed the seal replacement, so that's a contradiction.

If Mclaren is providing a certified Mclaren warranty, then perhaps the repair is permitted. I would question this rigorously though.
It is exactly this car. Can’t thank you enough for bringing this to my attention. I need to do better research.
 

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The Huracan Perf I am looking at is the white example at Lamborghini Philadelphia - very nice car. At that price point, paying all cash gets me a bit out of my comfort zone with my Urus Perf coming in as well to be fully transparent (only 30 so need to keep the foot down on my investments). Don’t have much appetite to finance both cars in this environment which is the primary cause in delaying pulling the trigger and trying to think critically. That’s why I was pushing so much on if the large price gap vs. 675LT is genuinely worth it.

Doing a 180 and starting to think my money is better off in the perf and more risk adverse in the 12-18 month hold before I move onto a replace car in the future.
 

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Oh, I'm aware, but sadly I have had too many friends with McLarens, and seen the nightmare unreliability first hand (I've had no less than 4 friends get stuck in their cars, some in the middle of nowhere curing rallies, being forced to break windows to get out). It's just not worth the gamble and potential headaches, for me personally, especially as I was looking for a car I'd keep forever. Thankfully the Perf still dominates the 765lt in the sound category, and in how special the cabin feels. ;)
Ah the good old “friends stories” 😂. They always tend to come up in these types of “which is bettter” discussions. The 765LT cabin feels way better inside than the Lambo - more accommodating, better viz etc. Sound is of course subjective, but both sound very good anyway. Comes down to personal preferences…. no deal breaker there.
Pretty certain if you drove one you’d lose interest in the Perf pretty quickly. I’m yet to come across anyone who hasn’t.
 

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Sorry, but that's false.
I’m speaking from my ownership experience of purely street driving. The 675 is violently fast and feels extremely light and precise. I don’t get the same sense of ‘holy crap’ acceleration or degree of driver feedback in the STO. Track times may reveal something different but the 675 should really be experienced before being honestly judged.
 

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I witnessed most of it first hand, so I'm not sure what to tell you.
I guess what im saying is keep an open mind. There is life outside of Lamborghini. I would agree with you Maclaren hasn’t got a great record, particularly on the earlier cars, but they do make incredible cars. Lambo is bound to be the more reliable but then not every Mac made is unreliable. There is more of a “luck of the draw” going on with the Mac for sure but not every one is going to let you down.

I totally agree with what scrappy just posted too. The sense of connection and driver feedback is overall superior and the thrust of the turbocharged engine feels notably stronger than STO which happens to be the fastest Huracan.
 

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It is exactly this car. Can’t thank you enough for bringing this to my attention. I need to do better research.
No problem. People helping people should be the primary point of these forums.

Edit: I'm also very interested in one day picking up a 675LT, so no bias to steer anyone away.

Edit Part Deaux: Even more interested in picking up @Scrappy 's VT Roadster when he decides he needs to clear out more old cars to make way for new toys.
 

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I guess what im saying is keep an open mind. There is life after Lamborghini. I would agree with you Maclaren hasn’t got a great record, particularly on the earlier cars, but they do make incredible cars. Lambo is bound to be the more reliable but then not every Mac made is unreliable. There is more of a “luck of the draw” going on with the Mac for sure but not every one is going to let you down.
I’ve owned 6 Macs including a very early build 12C which I drove 11,000 miles without any major problems (I believe a steering knuckle was replaced during a service visit). I’v experienced some issues on others (ie. cracked windshield on 765 coupe) but other than that it’s just been routine maintenance for each. Guess I’ve been lucky….
 
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