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Didn't hear anything today about the cats from Italy, so hopefully it will be tomorrow. I look at it this way. Had the car been for sale on the lot as a car with an aftermarket exhaust/tune and no CPO obviously. I feel it would have been priced 20k less. So more like 290k instead of 310k.

Notwithstanding, I feel I'm owed that 20k because of diminished value and I'll have to disclose all of this to the next buyer. I also want two years additional warranty with maintenance to be included also. They need to stand behind their recent work and assumption all is okay. When you make a mistake in business you have to pay and they made a big mistake. My car has been gone for going on three weeks also right now. I feel this is more than fair and really not asking for anything over and above considering the extreme inconvenience and hassle of all of this
100%. Good for you, I wouldn't accept anything less, those are very reasonable demands given the circumstances.

Especially considering that beyond this, the loss of use element cannot be ignored. If going by local exotic daily rental rates, to rent a comparable Huracan for 3 weeks would cost upwards of $20k in itself (and would include mileage restrictions). And once again, this is all due to their negligence in selling you a vehicle that was not as described and thus could not be operated safely due to the aftermarket tune, so you are definitely owed compensation.
 
100%. Good for you, I wouldn't accept anything less, those are very reasonable demands given the circumstances.

Especially considering that beyond this, the loss of use element cannot be ignored. If going by local exotic daily rental rates, to rent a comparable Huracan for 3 weeks would cost upwards of $20k in itself (and would include mileage restrictions). And once again, this is all due to their negligence in selling you a vehicle that was not as described and thus could not be operated safely due to the aftermarket tune, so you are definitely owed compensation.
I can’t help but wonder if somebody at Lamborghini HQ lost their job over this

….Probably not, but I’m sure somebody had to be spoken to….
 
Didn't hear anything today about the cats from Italy, so hopefully it will be tomorrow. I look at it this way. Had the car been for sale on the lot as a car with an aftermarket exhaust/tune and no CPO obviously. I feel it would have been priced 20k less. So more like 290k instead of 310k.

Notwithstanding, I feel I'm owed that 20k because of diminished value and I'll have to disclose all of this to the next buyer. I also want two years additional warranty with maintenance to be included also. They need to stand behind their recent work and assumption all is okay. When you make a mistake in business you have to pay and they made a big mistake. My car has been gone for going on three weeks also right now. I feel this is more than fair and really not asking for anything over and above considering the extreme inconvenience and hassle of all of this
100% reasonable on your part. I think lamborghini will honor your request given the alternative is to unwind the deal and try to resell it. Hopefully they step up soon and you get to enjoy the car again :)
 
I think the engine is fine but if you were looking for a clean certified pre owned. That is not it. Would you have purchased it knowing it had had a fuel dump tune?? No . They would not have taken that in if they knew also. So your at the point of having an engine that has possibly had extensive wear and tear more then it would have had it not been fuel dump tuned. While I do believe the engine is fine as it’s gonna take a lot more to ruin these engines.. plus we guys with TT dump fuel all the time but sparingly with use of a flame button. That vehicle was dumping fuel on the regular if the oil was not changed frequently that could be a cause for wear and tear. While it may not be an issue it’s still occured. You paid for a clean CPO, that’s not what you got. They need to recognize this as a big issue. The fact of the matter is is did have a tune and exhaust, it was dumping fuel. Fuel and oil are a horrible lubricant, and you have proof that the original file is not in the car. That’s gives you the right to ask for a full refund, engine replacement, or a different vehicle
 
There is another long thread where everyone is freaked out that Lamborghini has detuned their cars and made the exhaust too tame by removing the pops and burbles, and in here we have everyone freaked out that the car had a tune with pops and burbles.
 
I think this thread brings up a very valid concern, is Lamborghi doing there due diligence in checking the software for it being flash and or tuned when it comes to CPO. CPO should be the extra mile, the Lamborghini certified legit as can be but used. If they didn’t do there due diligence this is of concern to everyone. There are many stories of odo turn back and many have been tuned and or heavily modded because these are such a popular model to do so. I think this is a good thread to make corporate aware that they need to do more to certify a pre owned.
 
True. This is what scares people from buying used.... which in turn, will hurt used car values.
Hopefully an honest mistake and not someone shortcutting purposely/trying to cover up things.

V.
 
My CPO came with empty washer fluid and a center lock locking pin that was not locked. I think there is plenty of evidence now that the CPO process leaves a lot to be desired. It’s more of a warranty than proof that the car has been properly inspected
 
It does make you wonder how much the vehicle is checked over initially when it's brought to a Lambo dealer for trade. I always heard you're safe when buying from a Lambo dealer in terms of tunes/odometer rollbacks. You would think some initial checks for the above are done before Lambo even agrees to take the trade. And then obviously a more thorough inspection is completed as part of the CPO process.

Has anyone done any research to see if something like this has happened before and what the outcome was? With the thousands of CPO vehicles Lambo sells, surely this can't be the first time this has happened. Or maybe it's truly an anomaly, who knows. A lot of CPO buyers may also be unaware of these minor nuances to the vehicle, so it's possible they haven't detected any tunes/modifications even if their car has them.
 
Another question for this group. Do ALL late model (i.e. no more than 5-7 years old) used Lamborghini vehicles that a Lamborghini dealer sells have to be certified pre-owned? Or can they also sell non-CPO Lambo vehicles? I was just looking at a Performante at a Lambo dealer in Florida that has obvious modifications (aka an aftermarket exhaust), so I'm wondering what grounds the dealership makes to determine whether certain cars willl be CPO'd or not?

Cause I often hear of cases where "over $10,000 in service was performed in order to CPO the vehicle". So if they don't HAVE to CPO it, how come sometimes they will spend big money to do so and other times they won't? What's it decided based on?
 
Another question for this group. Do ALL late model (i.e. no more than 5-7 years old) used Lamborghini vehicles that a Lamborghini dealer sells have to be certified pre-owned? Or can they also sell non-CPO Lambo vehicles? I was just looking at a Performante at a Lambo dealer in Florida that has obvious modifications (aka an aftermarket exhaust), so I'm wondering what grounds the dealership makes to determine whether certain cars willl be CPO'd or not?

Cause I often hear of cases where "over $10,000 in service was performed in order to CPO the vehicle". So if they don't HAVE to CPO it, how come sometimes they will spend big money to do so and other times they won't? What's it decided based on?
they are not all CPO'd for various reasons, eg they can not have any aftermarket parts, they can't even have different model tires than what was originally on the car when new.
 
they are not all CPO'd for various reasons, eg they can not have any aftermarket parts, they can't even have different model tires than what was originally on the car when new.
they will just put on oem exhaust and tires. There was an sto at BH going through this the last time I was there. Cup 2 tires and an unknown exhaust
 
they will just put on oem exhaust and tires. There was an sto at BH going through this the last time I was there. Cup 2 tires and an unknown exhaust
correct, I saw that one too I think. I was simply pointing out that unless what return the car to exactly what was on the original spec sheet (window sticker), they can't CPO it and some cars don't have the margin to warrant the expense.
 
they are not all CPO'd for various reasons, eg they can not have any aftermarket parts, they can't even have different model tires than what was originally on the car when new.
Understood. But if they're minor items, why can't they just put new OE tires on or install the OEM exhaust back on? That's what happened with @RoyalPink's car.

It's odd cause I've seen many high mile CPO Huracan's (over 30,000 miles) and some with 1/3 the mileage that are not CPO (even if the vehicle is unmodified and looks clean otherwise). Beyond aftermarket modifications, I wonder where the line is drawn in terms of deciding whether or not to pursue that CPO status.

And do individual Lambo dealerships decide or is it up to Lambo HQ? I would think all incoming used Lambo inventory is reported to HQ?
 
So case in point. Lamborghini Naples dealership. This 2017 LP580 with center lock wheels is CPO. I know conversion kits are available, but I'm pretty sure center locks were not a factory option for a 2017 LP580 and thus would not have been part of the original spec sheet build:


Same dealership has a 2019 Performante. Non-CPO. Looks fairly clean but does have a couple mods (aftermarket exhaust, carbon accessories)

Pre-Owned 2019 Lamborghini Huracan Performante 2D Coupe in Naples #PKLA12888T | Lamborghini Naples

It's interesting they wouldn't revert the Perf back to OEM in order to CPO it. But they'll CPO an LP580 with center locks?
 
Understood. But if they're minor items, why can't they just put new OE tires on or install the OEM exhaust back on? That's what happened with @RoyalPink's car.

It's odd cause I've seen many high mile CPO Huracan's (over 30,000 miles) and some with 1/3 the mileage that are not CPO (even if the vehicle is unmodified and looks clean otherwise). Beyond aftermarket modifications, I wonder where the line is drawn in terms of deciding whether or not to pursue that CPO status.

And do individual Lambo dealerships decide or is it up to Lambo HQ? I would think all incoming used Lambo inventory is reported to HQ?
sure but that is assuming the original owner gave them the stock exhaust when they traded in the car to the dealer. but if they don't have it, and their margin on the car doesn't justify installing a new exhaust, then they're not CPO'ing it. When I was shopping for my Huracan, I test drove an EVO at Westlake Lambo and it had an aftermarket exhaust (which sounded amazing BTW!) and they didn't CPO the car.
 
My CPO came with empty washer fluid and a center lock locking pin that was not locked. I think there is plenty of evidence now that the CPO process leaves a lot to be desired. It’s more of a warranty than proof that the car has been properly inspected
I agree with this. I think it's overrated. Even a 1 year warranty for all the hassle associated isn't the greatest.
 
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My CPO came with empty washer fluid and a center lock locking pin that was not locked. I think there is plenty of evidence now that the CPO process leaves a lot to be desired. It’s more of a warranty than proof that the car has been properly inspected
My Perf is still at Newport and no call yet which leads me to wonder why and what the issue is. I'll wait until tomorrow and if no call then I'll be blowing up there phone tomorrow. I had some more CPO issues as well. There were several bolts not put back and broken clips on the under-tray. They had this off when they fixed an oil leak and put the stock exhaust back on. Absolutely zero excuse for that - none. Then they missed replacing the tire goop bottle which was expired in 2022. Lambo says this can explode/rupture once past expiration. A brand new installed battery did not have the trickle charger pigtail installed or put back on.

I have video evidence of the first two items from Lamborghini Las Vegas which are awesome by the way. They always do a cursory video inspection and send to the customer. So I told the service manager at Lambo Newport about this and he said he'll get it handled. Problem is on a lot of these so called 100 point plus inspections, techs (some) just try to breeze through it real quick and miss simple/basic items. Like I said, I can understand the tech missing not seeing the 9K rpm on the tach but not the cracks and pops. He should have picked up on that immediately on a test drive. So far Lambo Newport has done everything not to impress me. Just speaking the truth is all... and yeah I hope they do see this as it might help them to improve their quality of service which I think they need.
 
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