Jeff,

we're not talking about a car that anyone seems to know much about or cares to divulge much about, or your car or Raymonds, or Davids, or Lorenzo's yada yada. This sounds like a very if'y car and until proven otherwise should be viewed with caution.

Yes all the NICE Jalpas of our Jalpa Fraternity Here are worth at least $40 & up, because they are nice and have Documentation, but we're talking about what could be a ticking time bomb, and until proven otherwise should be considered with the usual caution any one of us here would view a completely unkown situation.

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I WAS honest, from the begining. i am the customer. just because i work on my cars doesnt not mean i am going to get off an airplane and do an inspection on a car. i pay people to do that . thats is why you select an UNBIASED 3rd party. would you get off a plane, rent a car , and in the same clothes you are in, inspect the car?

i bet NOT!


the flights i have been looking at arrive in the morning and leave in the early evening . in and out in one day. cash deal, or wire transfer.


he said that i could not leave the lot with car, there would be no test drive, and no independant PPI. that is what the thread is about. this is not an atttack against George, so dont turn it into one.

this is about procedure and protocol when buying a 23 year olf Lamborghini far from home.


please dont "twist" my words.

CARREAPER has a point....

PPI done by a third party is fair. I dont feel his requests are out of hand or unorthidox.

Actually considering he is the customer and has cash in hand the only reason i would see turning CARREAPER away, was if the seller felt it wasnt enough money for the car. So he basically shut down CARREAPER on ALL his requests.

Not for nothing boys, Lambo or Nissan, when buying a used car from anywhere if you want a testdrive, there is no problem, salesman goes with you, and as for PPI, dealerships will honor ALWAYS a customers request to have a car checked out by his mechanic. There is NOTHING wrong with that, ESPECIALLY if the car is in PERFECT MECHANCAL condition. A mechanic wasnt going to strip down the car, they would make sure everything works and that there are no leaks.....etc.

I feel no matter what was stated by either party in the email CARREAPER IS entitled to go to a mechanic and have the car surveyed, and DEFINATLEY by all means take teh car for a TESTDRIVE with a sales associate.

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you need to please read what HE POSTED in his email to me. he did not say i could bring anyone else TO LOOK THE CAR OVER AT HIS SHOP. he said " you " meaning me. alone and fresh off the airplane having been up since 3am to get there in Ohio at a decent time. NOWHERE does he say i can bring in anyone else. PERIOD. and the car is $33,900 . its missing stuff, NO BOOKS, NO TOOLS, INCOMPLETE JACK KIT. NO SPARE, NO SPARE STRAPS. NO SERVICE RECORDS. and i hope the title has the actual KM / miles reflected.

i bet you it says "exempt".

again, i have made no attempt to attack George. so dont go there. all i have done is ask would YOU, IN MY SHOES PAY $33,900 FOR A JALPA LIKE THIS WITH NO PPI AND NO TEST DRIVE!!!! ????


i bet you would not.


i am still in the market and will wait until winter, when the deals creep out from the cold. Ebay or not . this black 83 Jalpa *12038* is non viable to me.

and i just spoke with someoone on the phone who knows for a fact he has had the car almost 7 years . so any tires, belts hoses or service work done by the previous owner are likely dryrotted. i am positive the tires would be flat spotted and have to be replaced, and i am concerned the wheel bearings would be shot from sitting.

so, tires, belts , hoses, thermostat, radiator flush, brake flush, cam cover gaskets, carb rebuild kit, valve adjustment + shim kit, brakes? shocks? electrical?. with no test drive you have to assume all of these must be replaced. AFTER you paid $33,900 for the car, 6% sales tax ( required in Georgia when buying from a dealer) + tags, shipping and insurance.



so tell me guys, who wants to buy the car?

To be honest, I wouldn't buy this car, I don't know Evans since I'm from europe, but the facts you presented and summarized in your last post are simply enough/too much to worry about.

I know how costly a jalpa can be, therefore I wouldn't buy that car, not for this price.

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When Frank Sinatra got his Miura S in 1970, he said: “If you wanna be someone, buy Ferrari - If you are someone, you own a Lamborghini”.

I don't need to read anything. The fact that you are making a big deal on the internet is an attack.

Guess what, I just bought the car. It's in great shape and you lost out...sorry! LOL!

That's what you get for not trusting the guy.

I have a great Jalpa FOR SALE:$45,000.00

Anyone want it? You can do any kind of PPI you want anywhere in the world, as long as you pay for the transportation and insurance. I'll even pick you up at the airport and buy you breakfast. Man, I'll even pay for your plane ticket if you buy it.

Now that's service!

I'll give you $50,000 for it sight unseen Send it to my house.


I READ IT A COUPLE TIMES...The answer is simple, don't buy the car.

My local independent mechanic who services my Ferraris and Lamborghini does several long distance PPIs per year. I don't think it's uncommon to not let any unknown parties leave with the car. Most of the time when I have shopped for cars, the dealers have either offered to transport the car themselves to the shop I chose for the PPI, or offered to let someone from that shop pick it up since the insurance liability then transfers to that shop.

My approach has been to ask if I can send my mechanic over to do a PPI. It's a little less cost effective with a $35k Jalpa than a $150k Diablo, but a Lamborghini is a Lamborghini and my thought is that buying my local mechanic a plane ticket and paying him to do a thorough PPI (that he will have to stand behind if the car comes home) is money well spent. If the car isn't a keeper, I've laid out less than $1k to save 10-20x that in repairs on a bad car.

As I said, several of his clients pay my guy to do that on a regular basis, and since the Lambo community is small, odds are that my guy knows their guy and will get some professional courtesy that you might not.

Just another tool to add to your basket while you're shopping! Good luck!

Are you a "player" for real?

Are you also sure you don't want a PPI?

I'll even let you use my tools.

Only kidding! Sorry to offend anyone, but I couldn't resist.

Rule of thumb:

If you don't feel 100% comfortable with the seller when in the market for an exotic, don't bad mouth their habits on the internet, good or bad, just move on. Reaper, you went on two different boards to harm this guy...Grow a pair of balls and work it out, or just shut-up.

As already said, this is a small community, watch what you say. One day it may come back and bite you in the behind.

if he would have allowed someone else to come took at the car, i would have done that. he implied on the phone he would not allow that, and he said in his email that " I " meaning " me " could look the car over. NO ONE ELSE.

this is about long distance purchases from dealer/ businesses. the car is titled to his "dealership" and therefor i would have had to pay 6% sales tax on the $33,900 to the state of Georgia on top of everything else. if he is more service oriented than sales, he should change the "Cars For Sale" section of his website.

i am sure someone will give the car a good home. it wont be me.