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Old 03-30-2010, 03:22 PM
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I am not the owner of the car, but he is bringing it over to my place, where i have a 2 post and a 4 post lift. we are going to change the oil and get it all set to go for the summer. neither one of us has done work on a car like this before but we are more than the average joe garage mechanic.

My questions are:
1. which is the best lift to use? 4 post is easier but does it block anything i need to get to?
2. Does anything need to come off to drain the oil? or is the drain plug in a nice easy spot to get to.
3. what type of oil do you recommend? i have done some research and have seen a number of different recommendations.
4. Is there any pointers, tricks, or special tools needed to do the job?

and to get a few things straight, the dealer told me i would need 10qts of oil, he said pour 9 in and check it from there and add as needed. I have ordered a filter from the closest dealership which should be here tomorrow.

If you guys have some pics of what i will be looking at that would be great, this will be the owner and i first time seeing the bottom of the car.

sorry if this seems like a stupid noob question, but like i said its my first time working on a Lambo.

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Hi,
Here is list of all the fluids and specifications - quart ? - think metric .


You will have a small panel to remove to access the oil filter , and you should have new sealing washers for the oil tank plug and the two sump plugs.
Refill with the quantities described in the oil tank and then in the engine.



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Awesome. Just what i was looking for. Is there any cranking instructions to do before starting the motor to build oil pressure? or is it safe to start it right away if i follow the instructions of putting it on the motor and in the sump tank?
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I have an opinion on the oil question. I am using Renewable Lubricants Inc. 0W-20 in my wife's 2004 Murcielago, 0W-30 in the Enzo and 0W-20 in a Maybach 57s.

These may help you understand viscosity, the first one is more complete:

FerrariChat.com - FAQ: Ferrari FAQ

Link to AEHaas Writings - Bob Is The Oil Guy

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Hi folks

For those DIY'ers out there like myself, I am putting together a walk-through tutorial of doing an oil change on a Murcielago. It's not altogether different from doing an oil change on any other car, but because of the dry sump system there are some caveats to the norm. I will be adding pics and updating based on feedback I receive. In the meantime, I will post what I have.

Please refer to the following images the service manual when reading the content below.







I am using Esco jackstands and they work great for the Murci!


Just take care of your nose-to-ground clearance when lifting from the rear!


I use measured propylene pitchers to catch the drain oil so I can accurately measure how much oil comes out.
Click here to buy.





For routine oil changes on the Murcielago I have been told by an expert at LamboStuff that one should NOT drain the oil tank (drain plug marked as "1" in the above diagram), but instead should only to drain the sump (two drain plugs marked as "2" in the diagram above), in order to avoid letting the crank go completely dry. Additionally I was told that the oil tank drain plug is very fragile and the spout can bend if too much torque is applied.

Note: This tutorial is mostly based on feedback from Logan @ Lambostuff, but also includes recommendations and tips from multiple forums, as well as the bit of information that is available in the service manual.

Caution: You will be working with a hot engine and hot fluids for most of these steps! Wear gloves, eye protection, and take care to avoid burns!

Recommended Materials:
- AGIP SINT 2000 10w-40 (Sold in 12L case, but you will probably only use 11-11.5L)
Click here to buy - note that Agip's site can sometimes be VERY slow. Be patient.

- Lambostuff N0138481 SUMP CRUSH WASHER $2.00
Click here to buy

- Lambostuff 07M115561 UFI Oil Filter $50.37
Click here to buy

- Measured propylene pitchers to catch the drain oil. You'll need about four of them. Click here to buy.

- 8mm Hex socket

- Torque wrench

- Oil filter wrench


Instructions
1. Warm the engine to operating temp (> 70C) then turn off the engine.

2. Uncap the oil tank cap in the engine bay (A). This allows oil to flow out of the tank and into the sump in the following steps.

3. Remove one of the two drain plugs on the sump using an 8mm hex socket bit (2).

4. Wait for a slow drip (ie. don't let it drip for a long time like one might do on a non-dry sump system). Depending on several conditions the oil flow may start out being high and then slow down rapidly after the first 3-4L come out. The oil drain may become a very slow, thin drain. That is normal.
**If possible, take note of how much oil came out. This is the amount you should put back in (ie. don't overfill!).


!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take care not to "over drain". You will likely be leaving 2-3L in the car after you finish draining. This is as far as you should go for a DIY oil change on the Murcielago. Attempting a more thorough drain risks running the crank dry which could result in an engine rebuild down the road. You have been warned! If a complete drain is required then it might be better to take the car to a professional.
!!!!!!!!!!!!


5. Replace drain plug on the sump (2) and use a new crush washer. Use a torque wrench to tighten the drain plug to about 20-22 ft-lbs.

6. Remove old oil filter.

7. Fill new oil filter with oil and lubricate the filter gasket with oil.

8. Reinstall the new filter, hand tighten.

9. Fill the engine (B) with 3L.

10. Fill the oil tank (A) with the amount of oil needed to match the volume that drained minus the 3L put into the engine. 8L max.

11. Take care not to overfill!

12. Warm the engine to operating temp.

13. Turn off the motor, let it sit for 30 seconds. Check for leaks.

14. Check fluid levels, ensure level is between min and max dots. If oil must be added, repeat steps 12-14.


Notes:
-Either drain plug on the sump will work. If using a lift then use the one that is closest to the back of the car. If using a floor-jack to lift from the rear then use the drain plug that is closest to the front of the car.

-Tightening the oil filter with the "One-and-a-half turn after it starts to tighten" method works fine for the Murci.


Here is a neat little 3/4" PVC setup I found while surfing that can facilitate getting oil into the oil tank filler (A).




Thanks for reading! Good luck and PM me if you have questions.

Cheers

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Bump Updated the DIY walkthrough with some pics and added info/tips to make the oil change easier the first time through.
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Wonderful. Keep at it Smokey. Hopefully next time something goes wrong you feel a little more embolden to go further.
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Wonderful. Keep at it Smokey. Hopefully next time something goes wrong you feel a little more embolden to go further.
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Great thread, it should be a sticky.

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