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Old 06-05-2006, 05:58 AM
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Default What would Murcielago be like if it were on a diet??

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lately I have been reading posts & Threads about the lambo Murcielago and its weight issues...

I think its possible that lambo would really make the Murci on a diet, to even bring it up a notch...just take a look at Pagani...its truly obvious that Murci has more grunt than Zonda...but because of super light weight technology that the Zonda has inherited[carbon-fiber parts] it has managed to beat the Murci on a straight run...

So why won't Lambo make their cars inherit those light weight technology which they can use in the proccess of building Cars...Maybe because there's something they woul'dnt want to remove from the Murci?..or is there a major set-back if they would do this?..well whatever reasons it might be, I also think it would have to do something with prices don't you??..maybe cause this would X2 the prices of the Murci..hmm at that rate maybe the only people who would wan't to buy a Lambo are tycoons...don't think so'??

well maybe theres someone out there who could really tell the reason behind this issue..."WHY WON'T THE MURCI GO ON A DIET??...."
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Old 06-05-2006, 06:39 AM
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The cost of creating a carbon chassis for the Murcielago would significantly inflate the price of the car and would have to position the car in a different market segment. If they did it they would have to give it a different name altogether.
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As mentioned, Lambo is after a certain market. The ultra light, ultra rare $700K+ supercar market is not what market they are in. It's like asking why does Scion not make as 400 HP Mustang GT stomper. It's not that they can't come up with the technology, it's just that's not what market they are after.
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But want about simply do a RS version like the Porsche, it doesn't have to be so extreme to loss some weight. Even a mere 300 lb will help a lot. If Porsche can cut 200~300 lb, so can Lambo. By the way, using 4 lighter wheels can save 60~80 lb already
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It could afford to loose the radio!
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I need my radio - to hell with all that " listen to the engine BS!" that works for the first 20-30 mins
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It could afford to loose the radio!
I agree. On my Ferraris, I NEVER listened to the radio. Never turned
it on ! Maybe once, right after I got the car. Later, when Bob Seger the rock
star drove one of them, I turned the radio off on him! The engine was the
music. Even on long trips.

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Old 06-07-2006, 01:35 AM
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Back to the topic... I think Lambo can and should come up with a lightened Murcielago something of an SV or GT, rear wheel drive and bare interior. Something to homologate the Murcielago R-GT. Its all possible and would be down to marketing decision.

However for the Murcielago replacement, I speculate around 2009/2010 I think some major redesign of the chassis may be required. The Murcie chassis is essentially square tubular steel which evolved from the first Countach. Long time. They might add more carbon composite sections or use Audi's aluminium expertise and use aluminium space frames or bonded aluminium extrusions like the Gallardo and now even the 599GTB.

They experimented both a monocoque and tubular steel for the Countach and the latter was chosen because it had the most stability for the kind of power the Countach was expected to make though that chassis was very expensive to make. This chassis design could be nearing its limit with the latest Murcielago.
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