Could be, I don't have the balls to push the Murci to its limit at MSR here in Dallas, just too damn expensive if I screw up. The 430 seems to be a much easier car to get around the track in - it gives me more feedback.

The Murci gets a HELL of a lot more looks though!

Mark

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I agree ...after I drove the F430, it was immediately apparent how intuitively easy this car is to drive fast...after 3 laps around the track, any good driver could enjoy pushig this car....the Gallardo requires much more time to get dialed in to what the Gallardo will do in various situation....with enough time though, the Gallardo does become very predictable, and easy to push all the way.

If you were only going to drive full blast infrequently, then you could pull much better times with a F430.

Regards,
Dan

I ve heard that the clutch on manual last only 6000 miles, is this true?
In that case, if I drive 8000 miles per year, I have to replace the clutch every year. Thats $6500 down the drain per year.

Why do I have to replace the bearing? Do I need to replace the timing belt every year as well? How much?

Here is the quick run down of how much it will cost for maintenance per year

$6500 clutch
$1500 bearing
$520 Oil change
$120 Test
Bearing ??
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$8640 Damn!

The Gallardo Im looking at 2004 with 8000 miles for $124k or 2006 with 5000miles for $146k, which one is a better deal down the road? the 2004 is from an avg joe dealer, not a lambo dealer. The 2006 is from a Bentley/Lambo dealer. Is it "Safe" to buy it from an avg joe dealer? How much discount is reasonable, $10k?

But If I were to get the Porsche TT, I would prob send only 600$ per year on oil change and thats about it.

There are alternatives and exceptions. My car has 22k and has only had the clutch replaced once and the current clutch is at 20%. There is a Kevlar clutch that is $2500 (vs $4200) and has been stated on this forum to last at least twice as long. I change my own oil and do most of my own maintenace.

The throw out bearing isn't required with a new clutch, but if you need one that is the stated cost. Clutch wear in any car depends on the driver. Have you researched the cost on the F-430 which would include most of these expenses as well as the timing belt replacement.

If someone has to replace a manual's clutch after 6000 miles; they can't drive.

The service manager at my dealership says that most E-gear clutches wear faster when driven constantly in automatic mode, perhaps that's the case.

Cats exotic is located in WA, Im from Northeast area, so I must fly over there to look at the cars. Is lambo warranty 2 year/24000 miles, if thats the case, the 2004 and 2006 would make no differences as both are out of warranty. So as long as the clutch, bearing, 7500 mile service are done, the 2004 listed above from an non-lambo dealer is a good buy? What is the differences between my local non-lambo dealer to cat exotic which is also a
non - lambo dealer. The differences between a 2004 to a 2006 is more than $20,000. Do you think buying a 2004 and use the $20,000 saving for maintenance is a better idea?
Are you getting those numbers, 1400$, 2600$ from a authorized lambo dealer or local shops?

Here are a few cars I ve been looking at these past 2 weeks.
997 turbo Black/Black $122000 2200 miles
997 Turbo cab white/terra NEW $143,000
997 Turbo cab black/black Ordering new $138,000
Gallardo 2004 Yellow/black$130,000 4900 miles from local non-lambo dealer
Gallardo 2005 yellow/black $139,000 7100 miles from Lambo dealer
Gallardo 2006 Silver/Black $146,000 9100 miles from Lambo dealer

In your honest opinion, which of the above is the best deal? and why?
Im thinking the 2004 Gallardo is the best, I save about $16000 and thats plenty to spend on maintenance for the 2 years of ownership just as long as the clutch and bearing, 7500 mile maintenance have been completed.

The porsche dealer told me if I were to order a 911 TT cab, I must order with sport chron, which I dont understand why. Sounds like New TT cab is the best option if I were to get the porsche. And plus its a convertible.

I really love the Gallardo but at the same time want a convertible, but I cant afford a Gallardo spyder.

The 04 and 06 are virtually the same car. Therefore all things being equal, buy the cheaper car. I would buy the less expensive car, drive it for a while and use the extra money to make repairs or upgrades. The only real difference is the price and how the previous owners treated them.

I always asume a used car salesmen is a used car salesmen, therefore asume you will never know any car until you own it and have an oppertunity to drive it for a while.

F430 comes with timing chain like the Gallardo, maybe you meant 360, also the F430 is much more money than what he wants to spend.

If you want the best DD then is the 997TT, plus is brand new and warranty, and not to say that they are really fast. The dealer is right, you have to buy it with the sport c. option.
The Audi you can't touch as the waiting line is of two years and they sell for a premium used, not worth it.
You have the Gallardo which is as good a daily driver as any, less room than the 997TT for cargo. The Gallardo had some issues in 04 with the egear only, the manual shifters didn't have any. Also the clutches can last 20k miles easily and they don't cost 8 nor 12 grand. The 360 I would stay away from unless you're into Ferraris, but they have taken a hit so a used one at $115k is a great car for the money. Not as reliable as the 997TT or the Gallardo, and I'm talking from experience.

My choice would be the Gallardo. The '04 and save some money for maintenance, but I bet that your money will stay in the bank for a very long time.