e-gear snapshot of 5.15mm - Page 2

Sigurd · #11 (**permalink**) 01-12-2010, 08:20 PM

Onempty, you have to push a button to engage Sport or Auto mode. And when you're in either one, it will show on your dash between the guages.
Robgreg, if everything was spinning at the same rate, then yes. But, if things are spinning at different rates, then giving things time to become syncronized would wear less than an abrupt syncronization in my opinion. Kind of like braking hard over a short distance or braking softer over a longer distance. Does this make sense?

richard1302 · #12 (**permalink**) 02-03-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

Sorry to tell you but you can expect around 5.5 to 6mm of wear before slipping. With a brand new clutch you can expect around .8mm of "wear" initially while everything is getting "seated". In other words, a new clutch starts with around .8mm of "space" and you can then figure that the next 4.7mm or so is for you to burn through. I can also tell you that I burned through .5mm in the last 3K miles. So, if you drive like me you should be able to get up to 6K more miles out of your clutch. Given that your car has a bit under 10K miles on the clock and you have burned through around 4.35mm of clutch, I'd say it's unlikely. Anyway your wear is at around 86% and 93% depending if you use 5.5 or 6mm as total wear. Sorry mate.

Well, here are some sobering figures from my recent experience:

05 Gallardo 8500 miles. Clutch worn 75%. Lambo dealer just quoted me:

- New Clutch: $4,675
- New E-Gear hydraulic lines $2,124
- Labor: $3,578 (26 hrs @ 135 $/hr)

Total damage: $10,376

They say they'd recommend changing the lines to avoid the risk of fluid leak that'll drop onto the exhaust increasing the risk of fires...

No doubt about it, changing gears will cost you....

gvan · #13 (**permalink**) 02-03-2010, 10:21 PM

26 Hours of labour?!?!

2k for lines?

Inspect and save the 2K, ask them to video themselves performing the work. I want to see how a professional shop with ALL the tools on a [far too] routine job needs 26 hours for this.

carbuff · #14 (**permalink**) 02-04-2010, 12:19 PM

Richard1302: Labour should be no more than 18 hours, without replacing the lines.

You can run the G until the clutch starts slipping. If you still have 25% clutch left. You can get more miles off it. That is what some G owners do. You do risk a tow if you are unlucky and it starts slipping far from a dealer, but certainly this is cheaper than 25% of a clutch change!

Keep in mind, that is NOT 25% more miles, since the first and last layers of a clutch wear faster than the center....

robgreg75 · #15 (**permalink**) 02-04-2010, 03:21 PM

My clutch had 25% life left when I took it in for the 15k service. That was at 16k miles. I have put another 4k miles on the car and the clutch is still not slipping.

Don't replace yet.

richard1302 · #16 (**permalink**) 02-04-2010, 03:46 PM

Thanks all for the feedback. Have any of you heard anything about the hydraulic lines of the e-gear systems for 05 G's? I've been told that they have a tendency to crack and leak and that the factory strongly recommends changing them for newer, redesigned ones.

carbuff · #17 (**permalink**) 02-05-2010, 09:32 PM

Never heard of that, nor have I seen any posts about that on any of the lambo forums. But it may be something newly recommended...

But if that was the case, you would think it would also affect the 04 cars? Get "the recommendation" in writing from the dealer, and then scan it and post it up here so we can all read it. Very curious about this, and whether it only affects 05 cars, earlier cars, or whether it is just a bunch of BS.

gvan · #18 (**permalink**) 02-06-2010, 06:44 AM

I believe it's these lines that leak onto the exhaust and cause a lot of the Gallardo Flambes we've seen. I *think* they were revised in 06 but not sure. Shouldn't be any difference between 04 and 05.

I would at the very least inspect them regularly, maybe even wrap them somehow. They charge $2.5k for the lines. Bit much for me, should have been a recall issue but they tried pretty hard to keep it quiet.

It played a part in my decision to go manual...

Sigurd · #19 (**permalink**) 02-06-2010, 11:24 AM

If Lamborghini thinks it's a real serious issue, then they should issue a recall. If it is not that serious of an issue but an occasional occurance, then we better ensure our insurance has great carbeque coverage. Either way, my bet will be on my car not spontaneously combusting with my original lines from 04.

Rfong · #20 (**permalink**) 02-08-2010, 11:00 PM

Sigurd,
What are your recommendations to limit clutch wear on a Gallardo with a manual 6 speed stick transmission?

Have you found any mileage difference for clutch replacement between egear and 6 speed? I know this question has been asked many times, but I never seen a factual answer.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

1. Use reverse as little as possible and never over long distances.
2. From a stop you want to start with firm pressure on the gas pedal to get the gear fully engaged smoothly but efficiently.
3. Put car into neutral and roll up to stop signs, stop lights, stopped traffic instead of letting the car downshift for you.
4. Don't downshift if you can help it.
5. Let off gas for a moment when you pull the upshift paddle, get back on when the gear is engaged.
6. Don't use the Auto function.
7. Don't use Sport mode.
8. Keep transmission in neutral when sitting still (saves throwout baring).
9. And the biggest saver of clutch ever: Don't change gears!

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