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Old 01-09-2010, 02:19 PM
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Default e-gear snapshot of 5.15mm

I had today an e-gear snapshot on a diagnostic computer, its says 5.15

Can anyone tell me how to convert this number to the % of clutch wear? Also, its a 2004 Gallardo, what are the parts numbers for clutch replacement? I want the updated clutch for future replacement.

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Clutch-Position

Self-calibrated closed clutch position: 23.5 mm
Clutch position closed- as when new: 18.4 mm

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Difference between [19] and [27] : 5.1 mm

Measurements

No.
(hex.) Value Unit Comment
1 520 Coupling Potentiometer Stroke
2 873 Selection Potentiometer Stroke
3 23.5 mm Clutch Pressure Plate Stroke
4 23.4 mm Clutch Pressure Plate Stroke Reference
5 45.9 Bar Hydraulic System Pressure
6 63.0 ∞ Water Temperature
7 11830.1 mV Battery Voltage
8 NEUTRAL Lever state
9 0 R.P.M. Engine Speed
10 0 R.P.M. Primary Transmission Speed
11 0.0 km/h Car Speed
12 Neutral Engaged Gear / Required Gear
13 0000 0110 Bit Input Status ON/OFF
Bit-No.: 0= 0 Brake switch: OFF
Bit-No.: 1= 1 Driver's side door status: ON
Bit-No.: 2= 1 Key input status: ON
Bit-No.: 3= 0 Ignition input status: OFF
Bit-No.: 4= 0 Auto switch status: OFF
Bit-No.: 5= 0 LOW TRACTION switch status: OFF
Bit-No.: 6= 0 Bit not used
Bit-No.: 7= 0 Bit not used

14 0.00 mA EV Current Control - odd gear coupling
15 0.00 mA EV Current Control - even gear coupling
16 0.00 mA EV Clutch Current Control
17 0 EV Selection Control 1-2-3
18 Relay OFF Pump Relay Control
19 23.5 mm Self-calibrated closed clutch position
20 00 8C Hex Self-calibrated Clutch Slip Position Start (PIS)Delta
21 956.48 mA Corrente Centro Chiuso EV Frizione Autotarata
22 111210 Pump start counter
23 2739 min Pump on-time
24 88907 min System on-time
25 92 sec Clutch overheating time
26 8.0 Actuator/Gear Centring Delta
27 18.4 mm Clutch position closed- as when new
28 0 % Torque Driver
29 141.4 Neutral Selection
30 521.0 Neutral Coupling
31 42.80 ∞ Oil temperature
32 46.80 Cc/min Oil Leakage with EV clutch energized
33 16.80 Cc/min Oil Leakage with EV not energized
34 11621 Neutral coupling counter
35 OK Self-learning status
36 12000 Clutch deterioration index


Snapshots

Snapshot 1 - Minimum coupling safety threshold
A0: 456 100 768 100 780 100 771 738

Minimum coupling safety threshold - Neutral: 456
Minimum coupling safety threshold - First gear: 100
Minimum coupling safety threshold - Second gear: 768
Minimum coupling safety threshold - Third gear: 100
Minimum coupling safety threshold - Fourth gear: 780
Minimum coupling safety threshold - Fifth gear: 100
Minimum coupling safety threshold - Sixth gear: 771
Minimum coupling safety threshold - Reverse: 738

Snapshot 2 - Maximum coupling safety threshold
A1: 586 290 950 260 950 279 950 950

Maximum coupling safety threshold - Neutral: 586
Maximum coupling safety threshold - First gear: 290
Maximum coupling safety threshold - Second gear: 950
Maximum coupling safety threshold - Third gear: 260
Maximum coupling safety threshold - Fourth gear: 950
Maximum coupling safety threshold - Fifth gear: 279
Maximum coupling safety threshold - Sixth gear: 950
Maximum coupling safety threshold - Reverse: 950

Snapshot 3 - Minimum selection threshold
A2: 644 462 459 647 642 821 813 100

Minimum selection threshold - Neutral: 644
Minimum selection threshold - First gear: 462
Minimum selection threshold - Second gear: 459
Minimum selection threshold - Third gear: 647
Minimum selection threshold - Fourth gear: 642
Minimum selection threshold - Fifth gear: 821
Minimum selection threshold - Sixth gear: 813
Minimum selection threshold - Reverse: 100

Snapshot 4 - Maximum selection threshold
A3: 786 621 614 788 784 950 950 399

Maximum selection threshold - Neutral: 786
Maximum selection threshold - First gear: 621
Maximum selection threshold - Second gear: 614
Maximum selection threshold - Third gear: 788
Maximum selection threshold - Fourth gear: 784
Maximum selection threshold - Fifth gear: 950
Maximum selection threshold - Sixth gear: 950
Maximum selection threshold - Reverse: 399

Snapshot 5 - Coupling counter
A4: 11621 36046 53653 36721 25840 18958 7952 7006

Neutral coupling counter: 11621
First gear coupling counter: 36046
Second gear coupling counter: 53653
Third gear coupling counter: 36721
Fourth gear coupling counter: 25840
Fifth gear coupling counter: 18958
Sixth gear coupling counter: 7952
Reverse coupling counter: 7006

Snapshot 6 - Space covered
A5: 67 1376 3239 4376 5176 9408 43655 0

Space covered in Neutral: 67
Space covered in First gear: 1376
Space covered in Second gear: 3239
Space covered in Third gear: 4376
Space covered in Fourth gear: 5176
Space covered in Fifth gear: 9408
Space covered in Sixth gear: 43655
Space covered in Reverse: 0

Snapshot 7
A6: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 255

Couplings with erroneous selection: 0
High gear input revolutions: 0
Opposite gear couplings: 0
Clutch higher than the PIS: 0
Hydraulic clutch failure: 0
Release failure: 0
Misuse counter: 0
Unknown text: 3
Unknown text: 3
Unknown text: 255





17 KOMBI



Measurements

No.
(dec.) Value Unit Comment
2 15600 km Kilometerstand

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Old 01-10-2010, 10:06 PM
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anyone there to help me
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My 560 recently showed 1.2mm of wear, and they indicated that as 15% wear (i.e. 85% left).

So if you have 5.1, that's about 4 times mine, so maybe about 60% worn, or 40% left.
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Sorry to tell you but you can expect around 5.5 to 6mm of wear before slipping. With a brand new clutch you can expect around .8mm of "wear" initially while everything is getting "seated". In other words, a new clutch starts with around .8mm of "space" and you can then figure that the next 4.7mm or so is for you to burn through. I can also tell you that I burned through .5mm in the last 3K miles. So, if you drive like me you should be able to get up to 6K more miles out of your clutch. Given that your car has a bit under 10K miles on the clock and you have burned through around 4.35mm of clutch, I'd say it's unlikely. Anyway your wear is at around 86% and 93% depending if you use 5.5 or 6mm as total wear. Sorry mate.
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Sigurd, Can you give some hints on how to save the clutch. I know that you had great advice on my e-gear question.

Thanks
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1. Use reverse as little as possible and never over long distances.
2. From a stop you want to start with firm pressure on the gas pedal to get the gear fully engaged smoothly but efficiently.
3. Put car into neutral and roll up to stop signs, stop lights, stopped traffic instead of letting the car downshift for you.
4. Don't downshift if you can help it.
5. Let off gas for a moment when you pull the upshift paddle, get back on when the gear is engaged.
6. Don't use the Auto function.
7. Don't use Sport mode.
8. Keep transmission in neutral when sitting still (saves throwout baring).
9. And the biggest saver of clutch ever: Don't change gears!
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"dont change gears"...pussies...use your gears and buy new clutches...if u cant afford the clutches u cant afford the car, sorry.
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Pus^*? Just because I like to take off in 1st gear and keep it there for my entire drive? Easy to do except for ....on the freeway. But, my clutch should last forever. #9 was "tongue in cheek" of course. Sorry for the confusion.
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^ I think he was only kidding around.

How do you know if you are in sport mode or auto and not just normal?
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Don't use sport mode? The more positive quick shift in sport mode would make me think it would wear less.



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1. Use reverse as little as possible and never over long distances.
2. From a stop you want to start with firm pressure on the gas pedal to get the gear fully engaged smoothly but efficiently.
3. Put car into neutral and roll up to stop signs, stop lights, stopped traffic instead of letting the car downshift for you.
4. Don't downshift if you can help it.
5. Let off gas for a moment when you pull the upshift paddle, get back on when the gear is engaged.
6. Don't use the Auto function.
7. Don't use Sport mode.
8. Keep transmission in neutral when sitting still (saves throwout baring).
9. And the biggest saver of clutch ever: Don't change gears!
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