Don't get me wrong, Lamborghini is my favorite supercar company. But as you all are probably aware, there is a big white elephant here as fat as the Murcielago called weight. The Murcielago needs to shed some pounds, big time.

I saw these figures in Road and Track for the Curb weight of these cars (fuel and liquids, no driver):

Murcielago: 4020 lbs.
Murcielago Roadster: 4330 lbs.

That's one enormous car. I think getting 640 hp, updated suspension, and carbon brakes are all awesome upgrades, I do. But reducing weight would solve a lot more problems. It would improve accelration, braking, handling, and greatly reduce stress on the car's chassis. No wonder the frame bent while testing the LP640! Throwing over 4000 lbs. around corners and accelerating like it does is going to take a toll on the structure of the car.

The problem is not the AWD. That doesn't account for the over 1000 lbs. that the Murcielago has above cars like the Carrera GT, Ferrari Enzo, and Pagani Zonda F. Now that Lamborghini have a more user friendly car like the Gallardo, I think it's time that they cut some of the fat on the Murcielago. I'm sure there is a way to make it comfortable and light at the same time.

I think the Murcielago is an awesome car, and its amazing that it performs the way it does with all that weight. But I think Lamborghini should pay more attention to this area, for the sake of performance and the durability of the car. To those of you who have visited the factory recently and have spoken to the people on the inside: Is this even on Lamborghini's radar screen? Is the LP640 any lighter than the curent Murcielago? From their official figures it doesn't look it, but their factory figures are often bogus anyway.

Thanks

Way too much pasta!

Thats the best thing about my elise, and I dont have the heavy one you get in the US, ive got the nice light one, it makes a huge difference.

agreed, Merc is too heavy. Even more than SLR. Lambo need to make a RS version, than Murc will be the king!

I read that DWiggins was working on getting his Murci super light - lets see how his turns out

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Thats a massive difference.... especially in supercar territory... I guess it explains the video: http://www.dropshots.com/videolink.p...40&showVideo=1

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I've talked with Lambo execs about this at last years ROTB and Concorso.
They know about it. They have ideas.

But the cars you mentioned are significantly more expensive than a Murci.
This is a known problem with CF.

Audi has expertise with aluminum. Ferrari used CF for the Enzo (target
was a limited run and higher price), but uses aluminum (through affiliation
with Alcoa) for their other more inexpensive, produced in higher volumes,
street cars. Carrera GT produced almost 1300 cars, but they're more
expensive. Zonda is real small production and higher price

Nothing is stopping you from developing a CF Murci chassis yourself and
attaching parts on it from an older Murci. I suspect you may want to look
at lighter engine components as well. I'm looking forward to it ! Please go
to ALMS and kick those C6R's butts!

Larry

I've always thought they should make a "gallardo Stradale".

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An old post...But is it really wise to increase HP to 640, and reduce weight for a street car? Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. I guess shaving that extra .05 second from 0-60 is still all important but mostly to magazine reading day dreamers, not to real owners.

It doesn't need to be the fastest road car out there. It doesn't bother me a bit that an Enzo or Carrera GT is faster. My point is that I'd rather see less weight than more hp. The benefits are all around much better (not just for speed).

And I think the 580 hp Murcielago is a bit beyond "road wisdom" already.