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Old 11-04-2004, 06:34 AM
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Hi Everone

Just been into a local oil distribution store and spoken to a Shell oil company rep to ask him questions about oil for my Diablo.

He told me that he is supplying a well known Lamborghini independent service shop in England with Oil. He told me that the oil that should be in my car should be Semi synthetic and 10w 40. I found this a little strange semi synthetic. But he said as the engines are older the tolarences are bigger so the need of fully was not so important.

Can anyone explain this.

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Old 11-04-2004, 08:37 AM
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What does your car call for? I have not owned a Diablo yet, but all my Lambo's called for Agip Sint 2000 and that is all I use. It's on the factory sticker in the engine compartment. I get it from George Evans in Ohio. It is a blend oil.

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Tony, I'm not sure what Evans charges, but you can also get the Agip Sint 2000 direct from American Agip (at americanagip.com or 1-800-SAY-AGIP). I ordered a case (really a double case as 24 1 liter cans is the smallest that they will send) and it was $90 + about $15 for UPS ground shipping. This approximnately $4.50 per liter was significantly cheaper than the previous $8 per liter price I paid from dealers/service shops.
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:40 PM
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If your car and manual are 30 years old and state to use an oil that is 30 years old it does not mean that the oil recommended at that time is the best to use today. This is a common misconception.

That SJ rated stuff from AGIP is now 2 ratings old. The SM is out now, superseding the SL rating. Each more current rating has significant improvements over the last rating. Oils last longer, have better lubrication, less breakdown, less corrosive additives, better buffers, better detergents yet less foaming. They are less toxic to the cats. They somehow leak less than they did at one time. Oil consumption is down. They can absorb more moisture from your system. There is NO reason to use older oils.

It is truly amazing what oils are doing these days.

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If your car and manual are 30 years old and state to use an oil that is 30 years old it does not mean that the oil recommended at that time is the best to use today. This is a common misconception.

That SJ rated stuff from AGIP is now 2 ratings old. The SM is out now, superseding the SL rating. Each more current rating has significant improvements over the last rating. Oils last longer, have better lubrication, less breakdown, less corrosive additives, better buffers, better detergents yet less foaming. They are less toxic to the cats. They somehow leak less than they did at one time. Oil consumption is down. They can absorb more moisture from your system. There is NO reason to use older oils.

It is truly amazing what oils are doing these days.

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Do you own a Lamborghini that is less than 5 years old? If so what oil does your car call for?

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Tony, I'm not sure what Evans charges, but you can also get the Agip Sint 2000 direct from American Agip (at americanagip.com or 1-800-SAY-AGIP). I ordered a case (really a double case as 24 1 liter cans is the smallest that they will send) and it was $90 + about $15 for UPS ground shipping. This approximnately $4.50 per liter was significantly cheaper than the previous $8 per liter price I paid from dealers/service shops.

Thanks for the tip, I also buy the case of 24 but I have been paying about $40.00 more.

Thanks again!
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:36 PM
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We own the following: '03 Ferrari Maranello 575, '04 Murcielago as pictured in my profile, '04 Ford Expedition, '01 MB 600 SL and to replace my 600 SEL a custom Maybach should be coming in by the end of December.

In the 575 I use 0W-20 Mobil 1, in the Murcielago 0W-30 but will next try the 0W-20 Mobil 1, in the other cars I have been running 5W-20 regular Pennzoil.

The Murcielago calls for the fully synthetic 5W-40 Agip.

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Since the question was about an older V12, use the Spec they noted in the manual, 10W50 Oil is the one you have to choose no matter of the brand.
I use 10W50 of Motorex (swiss oil) and Mobil 1 15W50 in my street cars, the race car receives 10W60 Castrol.
Any car pre-Diablo needs at least 10Wxx oil otherwise your bearings will be washed out!
Also the first Diablo need 10W40 Agip Synt 2000, I personally don't like Agip and take always other brands.
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Since the question was about an older V12, use the Spec they noted in the manual, 10W50 Oil is the one you have to choose no matter of the brand.
I use 10W50 of Motorex (swiss oil) and Mobil 1 15W50 in my street cars, the race car receives 10W60 Castrol.
Any car pre-Diablo needs at least 10Wxx oil otherwise your bearings will be washed out!
Also the first Diablo need 10W40 Agip Synt 2000, I personally don't like Agip and take always other brands.

I use the Mobil 1 15W50 on my 98 roadster
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I guess I have to start from scratch. See the General Discussion section.

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