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Old 01-22-2007, 08:32 AM
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Look like to Import a car from Canadian it has to be a 1987 or older. Or have emission on it, most cars from Canadian have US emission. Here’s a link with more info

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/factmtop.htm
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:19 AM
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Look like to Import a car from Canadian it has to be a 1987 or older. Or have emission on it, most cars from Canadian have US emission. Here’s a link with more info

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/factmtop.htm
Great Link! is it 87 or 86? I guess you have to look at the title for the month it was made too.

What happened to your car's engine so soon after you bought it??
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:56 PM
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My car had a crack head gasket, putting air in to the cooling, and it had lots of oil leaks on the engine and transmission. So I put all new seals on the transmission, I’m having the engine rebuild. My engine was support to start going back together last week. I guess it will start going back together later this week. Ill be posting lots of pictures.
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Great Link! is it 87 or 86? I guess you have to look at the title for the month it was made too.
OK I’ve been reading and It's look like 1986 and old is ok. 1987 and new you would have to meet US requirements.


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Not Identical to U.S. Version
The Canadian vehicle was not manufactured by the OEM to be identical in all material respects to a vehicle certified for sale in the U.S. The vehicle may be imported without a Customs bond required by EPA through one of the following four exemptions.

(a) 21 OP years old or older
The Canadian vehicle is 21 original production (OP) years old or older (OP years = the calendar year the vehicle was manufactured subtracted from the calendar year the vehicle was imported) and in original unmodified configuration. There is no Customs bond required by EPA, nor any written EPA approval.

Requirements
Importer must be prepared to demonstrate to U.S. Customs, upon entry, or to EPA, the vehicle is 21 OP years old or older. Generally, the vehicle's Canadian registration or title is adequate proof.
Importer must file with U.S. Customs, upon entry, an EPA Form 3520-1 declaring code "E".

Restrictions
The vehicle must be in its original unmodified configuration.
Vehicles at least 21 years old with replacement engines are not eligible for this exemption unless they contain equivalent or newer EPA certified engines.
(b) Immigrant, worker or student exemption.
More info here, about half way down http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/factmnb.htm#canversion
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This link will take you to the right place on the page.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/fact...m#nonusversion
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All this still scares me to death!!! All you need is one civil servant to stop the whole process if you forgot one technicallity! You know what I mean? You get all this money wrapped up in a nice Jalpa you find in Canada and find out at the border that you can't bring it in!!! Yikes what a nightmare that would be.
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The EPA rules only concern emissions, and being 21 years old is helpful for the car not having to suffer through that inspection.....BUT, don't forget the Department of Transportation requirements which pertain to cars less than 25 years old I'm not sure whether there are differences in the rules for importing from Canada vice the rest of the world, but here's what the bottom line was two years ago when I brought mine home from Belgium:

If the car was not originally manufactured to US specs, you have to go through a Registered Licensed Importer, which involves posting a bond at 1.5 (?) times the car's value, then modifiying all those things that aren't U.S. "compliant" before being able to send it through customs and taking possession. I'd guess you'd be looking at a starting figure of around $5k for the RLI's "services" and the mandated changes (fugitive emission boxes, US speedo, etc.). Worst part about that is you likely don't want those mods, otherwise you'd buy a US spec.

The other potential problem is that the Euro version Jalpa is not listed in DOT tables of Euro manufactured cars as being "substantially similar" to their US versions. This is THE prerequisite for importation of cars less than 25y.o., as the car has to be brought into US compliance, but DOT only considers cars on their list. This should be obvious to DOT since there are Euro spec Jalpas in the US, but I wouldn't count on it. I also wouldn't consider it impossible, and would bet that a call to the appropriate office at DOT (phone numbers available on their website) would ultimately yield success. Would probably require a lot of patience and diligence on your part, I'd bet. Maybe someone with a Euro spec Jalpa could provide you a copy of their DOT papers for an example for the DOT officials to guide them through approving your Jalpa? Mine would be worthless to you, as my car was specifically allowed under the following means.

Obtain a letter from the Factory Designated Agent in the US stating that, "... (the car) was originally manufactured to US specifications except for minor labeling differences....." This simplifies the process to one each EPA and DOT forms, and the attached DA letter. I don't know, however, who the current Lambo Designated Agent for the US is....

You can very likely get a car through with an RLI, if you want to spend the money, or you could wait a year at a time for the model year you're looking for. That last one doesn't sound like a viable solution when you want one now, though.

Let me know if I can help you navigate through this.

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i believe the car has to be 25 years old to bring into the states....creates lots of issues because presently, it would mean we have to go back to 1982 cars....this is for imports from canada.
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For import to Canada it is 15 years, that's why steve maman is buying all the 2wd diablos in switzerland...
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SlyCy's right. Sorry I wasn't that clear on it before.

DOT allows importation of any foreign-built car that is at least 25 years old. Anything younger has to go through the process of proving the car is modifiable (ie, on the DOT list or some other precedent or evidence); posting bond; and using an RLI to import and modify the car prior to processing it through customs on your behalf.
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